B25Modelman Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) When you read some of the topics and look at some of the ridiculous and sometimes callous replies my honest topic/question about a BSA air gun was removed. Life's a long song as Jethro Tull once sang. Edited June 29, 2016 by B25Modelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 what was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TONY R Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 The Whistler. Ill get my coat. My VELVET GREEN coat. OH! frog ate it . :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted June 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) I purely asked what it was and for info on it. Which was kindly answered by another member. Edited June 29, 2016 by B25Modelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) No airgun expert me but saw one like it a mate now dead had, think it could well be a BSA model D. Think someone will be along to corect me if im wrong. Edited June 29, 2016 by TONY R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 ah yes I remember. I imagine it was removed because you'd got the answer? I hope so anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 A search i think i am right. Made em from 1911 to 1917. got to be a hundred years old. thats interesting that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted June 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) It's a BSA Standard Light 177 L series around 1924. http://www.network54.com/Forum/670443/message/1287014897/%26quot%3BL%26quot%3B+series+%28c.1924%29+serial+no.+L22357 a very knowledgeable member (thank you again) gave me this info together with a valuation in its current condition, pre-overhaul. Maybe it was removed because pricing was discussed and the mods thought I was openly selling it which I was not. Edited June 29, 2016 by B25Modelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 It's a BSA Standard Light 177 L series around 1924. http://www.network54.com/Forum/670443/message/1287014897/%26quot%3BL%26quot%3B+series+%28c.1924%29+serial+no.+L22357 a very knowledgeable member (thank you again) gave me this info together with a valuation in its current condition, pre-overhaul. Maybe it was removed because pricing was discussed and the mods thought I was openly selling it which I was not. I have had posts removed for asking how much a gun is worth , so it may be that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 :lol: Oh well im sorry i did try honest, it looked like that model D , .. well similar.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted June 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) :lol: Oh well im sorry i did try honest, it looked like that model D , .. well similar.. No problems, it was close and enjoyed the video especially the ability of the chap in making the new parts...very impressive indeed. Edited June 29, 2016 by B25Modelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddoakley Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I have something very similar, apparently mine is a 1931 (I do have some more info somewhere) It's in lovely condition having had some restoration I imagine. Could you pm me with some details of who provided the valuation? Wrapped mine up and leaving it for as long as I can hoping it increases in value but sometimes think it would be better to go to someone who would appreciate it now. Cheers Edd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taximan Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 I think your BSA Standard pattern air rifle is a bit earlier that 1924, indicated by the two hole trigger block. BSA introduced the BSA Standard air rifle in 1919, and the very first rifles still had the old pre-WW1 legend " BSA Air Rifle (Improved model D" rolled into the compression cylinder. Once stocks of these older cylinders were used up, model details were photo-etched into cylinders.Sadly this photo-etched detail wears off over time, so most are just plain (ie covered in brown grey patination) The two hole trigger blocks had a none-adjustable trigger pull, which was set at the factory ( normaly around 3-45lbs ).You might be able to detect a stamped mark in the stock,immediately behind the rear most bit of the trigger guard, where it meets the stock wood. This shows the trigger weight in a triangle. In 1922, BSA introduced an adjustable trigger mechanism, arranged in a three hole trigger block. your rifle is earlier than that. .177 rifles should have a 'L' prefix to the serial number, and .22 rifles will have an 'S' prefix to the serial number. Late in 1922, BSA introduced, a longer target model called the Club Standard, and that gun would have has a 'CS' prefix to the serial number. An endless source of info on these rifles exists here http://www.network54.com/Index/105071 PM me if you require more detailed info Happy shooting !! ATB taximan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 taximan - the gun was dated using the serial number and the serial numbers of guns of a known vintage with numbers before and after 1924. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taximan Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) taximan - the gun was dated using the serial number and the serial numbers of guns of a known vintage with numbers before and after 1924. That is as maybe, however a lot of the books are mis-leading. After world war 1, BSA stopped issuing their numbers in date order, so the only way you can be 100% sure of any date is to consult the factory legers, which give the serial numbers together with dispatch dates. One thing BSA did do however was to steadily improved the models over time, and one of the first improvements was the introduction of the adjustable trigger , and the three hole trigger block, which was in universal production by 1924. The gun shown in the picture has the early two hole trigger block, so must have been manufactured earlier than 1924. Since the serial number is stamped into the trigger block it is entirely possible that the early two hole trigger block has been added to a later action, however the serial number must go with the block. I collect these guns so do know a bit about them. Happy shooting! This gun is of a similar age to the OP's gun,however the OP's gun has the later stamped trigger guard, so would make it slightly later than 1919- possibly 1920/21. http://www.network54.com/Forum/670443/message/1298563736/BSA+Standard+%27L%27+prefix+%28serial+No.+L5151%29+1919 What is the serial number of the gun ? ATB Taxi Edited July 20, 2016 by taximan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted August 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 (edited) Sorry for the late reply, L22283 Unlike the gun shown in the link, the trigger guard on this gun rolls around into the stock (screw missing). There is a very light, but visible, 'B' stamped into the wood near the end of the guard. On the left side of action frame just behind the lower of the two holes is stamped 'C' together with a triangle enclosing '27'. On one of the loading lever trunnion blocks is a number 63 in a triangle and the letter 'S' stamp. On the other trunnion block is a number which is unclear, maybe a 2. Under the lever pivot there are other stamps, '55' on the barrel, and 'X', 'N' on the flat between the trunnion blocks. The rear sight has 10, 20 and 30 on one side plus a number ending in 3 on its rearward facing surface. Edited August 2, 2016 by B25Modelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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