Scully Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 https://ukshootingnews.wordpress.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) Normal magazines will almost certainly be subject to the same controls as primers, in that you’ll have to show your FAC before buying them at a shop. With so many hundreds of thousands of them out there already, this won’t affect the UK in any meaningful way; the private sales market will prosper considerably. However, the EU Parliament plan will ban hunters from being able to use standard capacity magazines in non-22 firearms – including shotguns A little confusing. Is he trying to say that when (as it will) my T3 mag needs replacing as the plastic wears, I'll need the replacement entered on my FAC (and presumably FACs will need wording to something like "bolt action rifle with 5 shot magazine" or similar?). All a bit confusing and all a bit of a dog's dinner. The whole thing is a knee jerk reaction to terrorist incidents, but it all seems utterly pointless and meaningless to control law abiding shooters. Hasn't anyone told the EU that terrorists don't tend to apply for licences and don't tend to acquire guns legally, so none of this will have any effect on terrorist risk? I also still don't understand why some of our shooting organisations seem to be in favour of these additional controls, or at least not concerned about fighting against their introduction. Edited July 26, 2016 by Savhmr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Terrorists seem to have left bolt actions and small capacity magazines behind as well. David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kody Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 *** we are out of EU ain't we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exudate Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 "However, the EU Parliament plan will ban hunters from being able to use standard capacity magazines in non-22 firearms – including shotguns" For a shotgun, what exactly is 'standard capacity'? Is a 2 cartridge capacity magazine on a section 2 semi-auto classed as 'standard capacity'? I sincerely hope not...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 *** we are out of EU ain't we Not yet but it cannot come quick enough. Just totally fed up with non elected and elected members of parliament of any colour or type Imposing their own personal view on who or what firearms the law abiding are allowed to own just because they don't like guns. It is highly likely that we will be the last generation to enjoy shooting in all its current forms, which is already significantly reduced from the days of pistol and semi auto rifle days. We urgently need one united and powerful body representing shooting in this country not the many, basc,cpsa, nra, nsra etc all with their only little agendas and I am all wright jack attitude. Divided we lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) As an aside, and as an indication of how meaningless the handgun ban of 1997 really was, the number of pistols currently legally owned in this country by individual, now stands at two thirds of the numbers held prior to the ban, at 16,367.But we all know the ban wasn't about guns....was it Major Blair? Edited July 26, 2016 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_fox Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 "However, the EU Parliament plan will ban hunters from being able to use standard capacity magazines in non-22 firearms – including shotguns" For a shotgun, what exactly is 'standard capacity'? Is a 2 cartridge capacity magazine on a section 2 semi-auto classed as 'standard capacity'? I sincerely hope not...... My understanding is that if the shotgun has a fixed magazine then it's okay but if it's detachable then there's going to be a problem as they don't differentiate between shotgun and rifle centrefire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 *** we are out of EU ain't we not yet, but they are going to make it hard for us, because we want out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kody Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 not yet, but they are going to make it hard for us, because we want out. Just ignore the morons what can they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 There is a phenomenal amount of rubbish being posted on some shooting blogs web sites - here is probably the best advice on the EU issue you can get: https://basc.org.uk/blog/press-releases/latest-news/basc-provides-eu-firearms-qa/ David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 I have just one question: if this comes into power and the next terrorist attack happens afterwards with an already (now) banned firearm, what's next? All the lawmakers will put up their arms into the air and say sorry, we messed (would use a stronger word, but not allowed) up again, or there gonna be another, even more restrictive ban (which effects only legal gun ownership)? If You are a terrorist, You don't care about the law... Why don't they get this? Or is there another, hidden agenda behind this? (Banning civilian gun ownership eventually, called salami tactic? ). I think I know the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fallowbuck Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Not yet but it cannot come quick enough. Just totally fed up with non elected and elected members of parliament of any colour or type Imposing their own personal view on who or what firearms the law abiding are allowed to own just because they don't like guns. It is highly likely that we will be the last generation to enjoy shooting in all its current forms, which is already significantly reduced from the days of pistol and semi auto rifle days. We urgently need one united and powerful body representing shooting in this country not the many, basc,cpsa, nra, nsra etc all with their only little agendas and I am all wright jack attitude. Divided we lose. I totally agree one organisation, more members,more money and more Clout! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 The same applies to other issues. Hammer the law abiding. Air rage/drunks etc on aircraft in the news recently and now they are going to stop me having a glass of wine or a beer with a meal while waiting for my flight. Close all bars etc etc., instead of banning the offenders from flying for ten years and fining them £1000 or two years in nick, no ifs no buts. BUt, it's much easier to frame some overall law and say look how we have done well. The pistol ban after Dunblane, similar. The Scottish Police fowled up, failed and one senior officer issued the license after his investigating officers had recommended withdrawing the FAC. " I know this man better than most " I believe where his words and promptly retired. Must take another tablet :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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