shaun4860 Posted August 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 I have to say this is out of character I think for the new owner and with regard to the way you follow the shoot, I have been to quite a few large shoots now where they have done it this way and so long as people actually abide by the order and not do their own thing it has worked very well. Whilst queue jumping is out of order I think the scorers/refs need to be strong on this, If the owners put a squad number on the card then the scorers/refs would know who was due next and tell someone out of sequence to go back to where they should be, After a few shoots it would sink in the it's not right, As I said the Essex Masters seems to work ok, I've been twice and not seen a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Shaun Unfortunately the Scorers at Orston are usually about 14 and struggle to make decisions let alone rebuff anyone who fails to follow the ground rules. Previously when properly squadded it worked well, such a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper682 Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Tight choke Don't know him personally, just used to shoot his ground at Prescott, where this system worked OK. Always found the owners to be most pleasant and accommodating. Maybe more pressure now given the massive investment to take on the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guiltyyapper Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 if you are paying top money to shoot there should be a ref on each stand ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 I shot there a couple of weeks either side of the change of ownership. It went from a scorer on every stand, to waiting an hour for one of three lads to take us round. The targets were good, but it feels like too much value engineering for my liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Not experienced any delays due to scorers,if they come i will give it a miss,no need for it as entries have just sneaked up £2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sian Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 It's a shame some have had bad experiences but who runs what. When it's a registered then it's surely Orston but when it's that world Sporting surely it's the world sporting guy who runs that? Genuine question I'm asking here because I don't understand what benefit it is to grounds to have others use their grounds. I'm sure it's financial but perhaps someone knows. It obviously changes between squaded and unsquadded depending on what shoot it is as can be seen in the fixtures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 It's a shame some have had bad experiences but who runs what. When it's a registered then it's surely Orston but when it's that world Sporting surely it's the world sporting guy who runs that? Genuine question I'm asking here because I don't understand what benefit it is to grounds to have others use their grounds. I'm sure it's financial but perhaps someone knows. It obviously changes between squaded and unsquadded depending on what shoot it is as can be seen in the fixtures. Sian The shoots are the Grounds responsibility at Orston, they tried something new and it didn't work particularly well. On top of that, the owner did not like being told it hadn't worked, the World Sporting Representative was attentive and may hopefully be able to use his influence to get things sorted. Such a shame as the previous three shoots had run like clockwork, which is why the changes stood out and were not necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Shaun Unfortunately the Scorers at Orston are usually about 14 and struggle to make decisions let alone rebuff anyone who fails to follow the ground rules. Previously when properly squadded it worked well, such a shame. Sorry but I must correct you here no scorers ar 14 at Orston all employees are 16 and above and go through training .All registered shoots are a trapper on every stand .Open shoots are normally squaded ,the last World sporting was a trapper on every stand but unfortunately it's too expensive unless more people tip up to shoot .regarding the price increce that's paid back in the prize fund ( ie £50 not £25 ) ?Its not world sporting that runs the shoot it's Orston Shooting ground ,World Sporting is just a format they use . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 I stand corrected about the age of the Scorers. I will shoot another of the registered 100 birders and see if that is better run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper682 Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Are you sure you are talking directly to the owner. I heard he had a ground manager now. Jasper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) Jasper, I spoke to the Ground Manager at the far end of the site, I spoke to the owner in the Clubhouse with the Ground Manager present who was then contradicted by the owner and then I spoke to the rep from World Sporting too Edited August 26, 2016 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sian Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Well up to Orston early doors tomorrow followed by Kegworth. Say hello if you see me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Well up to Orston early doors tomorrow followed by Kegworth. Say hello if you see me. Me too but not till afternoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guiltyyapper Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 shot the 100 bird open sporting today which was a good shoot and cost £35 for completion.The shoot was squaded and didn't seem to be many there, looks like they have tried a lot harder setting the shoot up as shoot one last month which was poor. Hope they carry on with this standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lksopener Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Dan and his partner were fab when I last visited. Time for some new blood and ambitious plans, it's a treat for me to shoot there. Really good ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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