kennett Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 La Bala Are you saying a hedge is your backstop, just could there have been anyone in the wooded area, people do have a right to rome I'm sure he knows what is safe on his own land and what isn't. And despite what many people I find wandering around the shoot think, RTR only applies to mountain, moor, heath, down and common land. It is not a licence to walk anywhere you fancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Slightly off subject but people know its illegal to drink drive or use a mobile phone whilst driving, does that stop them all, Accidents are often a excuse for negligence and complacency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 La Bala Are you saying a hedge is your backstop, just could there have been anyone in the wooded area, people do have a right to rome Sorry only just seen your post, you seem to know my permission well, I have been shooting 60 years and consider myself a safe and experienced shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Slightly off subject but people know its illegal to drink drive or use a mobile phone whilst driving, does that stop them all, Accidents are often a excuse for negligence and complacency Do please think before you post !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) I did and nothing said has changed my mind except the usual excuses, a backstop should be a solid object with clear vision to where the bullet lands, I looked half a hour ago is not a good answer Are you saying I am wrong if so where Edited September 30, 2016 by ChrisAsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 And i will say again, you seem to know my permission well, if that is the case maybe you could tell me whats behind the hedgerow i didnt and wouldnt use as a backstop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 I'm sure he knows what is safe on his own land and what isn't. And despite what many people I find wandering around the shoot think, RTR only applies to mountain, moor, heath, down and common land. It is not a licence to walk anywhere you fancy I thought the so called 'right to roam' is a purely scottish thing and completely different to ur english tresspassing laws (even before the RTR legislation there was no tresspass laws in scotland) In scotland the RTR basically is a free pass to walk anywhere u like, there is 1 or 2 rules ur meant to follow dogs under close control and not damaging crops etc but most are routinely ignored by those who want too I always thought in eng ur meant to be on a footpath at all times even in the uplands otherwise ur tresspassing on private land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 I did and nothing said has changed my mind except the usual excuses, a backstop should be a solid object with clear vision to where the bullet lands, I looked half a hour ago is not a good answer Are you saying I am wrong if so where Last time I looked, the ground on which I was standing looked pretty solid, at least down here in Devon it is. I have therefore always considered shooting from an elevated position, be that from a vehicle, sticks, high seat or standing on my wife's shoulders a pretty satisfactory and safe way to take a shot. Quite why you wish to lecture someone you don't know, shooting on ground you know even less about is beyond me. I would suggest you wind your neck in and save your moralising for conversations down the pup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Back on topic please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Long range is when I have to walk to get to the target. Or the dog is out of ear shot on a retrieve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 This evening I shot a running pheasant stone dead at 220yds with my .22lr from an unsupported standing position. He was running from right to left rather than away from me so had to allow for that at that range. I consider that long range and is my best shot yet. No doubt people will say I am lying, fluke, shouldn't be shooting them with a rifle etc but I'm not really bothered about that. I can do it and I bet there's not many that can. There's a vid of a guy shooting a gong at 500yds on Youtube with a CZ Scout. Same gun as mine but I have never tried 500 yards (yet) so the gun is very capable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Basically the distance I don't feel that I can humanely and without error kill what I am about to aim at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooooper1 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 180yds with 22lr 600 with 223 800 with 308 can`t see that far and if i could can`t walk that far to pick it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 This evening I shot a running pheasant stone dead at 220yds with my .22lr from an unsupported standing position. He was running from right to left rather than away from me so had to allow for that at that range. I consider that long range and is my best shot yet. No doubt people will say I am lying, fluke, shouldn't be shooting them with a rifle etc but I'm not really bothered about that. I can do it and I bet there's not many that can. There's a vid of a guy shooting a gong at 500yds on Youtube with a CZ Scout. Same gun as mine but I have never tried 500 yards (yet) so the gun is very capable. I don't think it's a fluke and not for me to say whether you should or shouldn't use a rifle as I myself have been asked to shoot them with a .22, I would even go as far as to say I too could prolly do it. But are you saying you can do this regularly without missing or worse wounding ? Because that you can't do. We all pull off spectacular shots from time to time, that doesn't mean "we can do it" to order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshMike Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Such a subjective subject. My opinion is if you are happy with your ability who really cares? Nice to nail long distance shots but there does seem to be a bit of a "bragging rights" feel creeping in with some of the comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 I don't think it's a fluke and not for me to say whether you should or shouldn't use a rifle as I myself have been asked to shoot them with a .22, I would even go as far as to say I too could prolly do it. But are you saying you can do this regularly without missing or worse wounding ? Because that you can't do. We all pull off spectacular shots from time to time, that doesn't mean "we can do it" to order. Yes I can do it regularly. I have a metal disc hanging down the field and I can even hit it with open sights from well over 100 yards. Am I saying I can do it without missing, no of course I can't and would doubt anybody that claimed never to miss or wound at any range. I missed a squirrel yesterday that was less than 30 yards away. I hope I'm not coming across as bragging as I don't mean to. I was chuffed to bits with that 220 yard shot but it is down to lots of practice and knowing the gun, or knowing the sight to be more precise. I have had the sights for 35 years, they cost £50 from Monk's gun shop in Chester and that was a weeks pay for me back then. The gun is a CZ Scout and there's nothing exotic about that, it's a trainer gun that comes with a single shot magazine and is aimed at introducing kids to shooting. I bought it cheap second hand because it is a tiny little gun and ideal for in the truck. It likes Eley subs so nothing special there either. All just ordinary stuff that anybody can do with a bit of practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Yes I can do it regularly. I have a metal disc hanging down the field and I can even hit it with open sights from well over 100 yards. Am I saying I can do it without missing, no of course I can't and would doubt anybody that claimed never to miss or wound at any range. I missed a squirrel yesterday that was less than 30 yards away. I hope I'm not coming across as bragging as I don't mean to. I was chuffed to bits with that 220 yard shot but it is down to lots of practice and knowing the gun, or knowing the sight to be more precise. I have had the sights for 35 years, they cost £50 from Monk's gun shop in Chester and that was a weeks pay for me back then. The gun is a CZ Scout and there's nothing exotic about that, it's a trainer gun that comes with a single shot magazine and is aimed at introducing kids to shooting. I bought it cheap second hand because it is a tiny little gun and ideal for in the truck. It likes Eley subs so nothing special there either. All just ordinary stuff that anybody can do with a bit of practice. You can hit a running pheasant at 220 yards regularly ? Discs/targets have predictable movement if any so they don't count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 How much lead and hold over? it must have been massive with a 22lr and sub's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 How much lead and hold over? it must have been massive with a 22lr and sub's. My CZ with zero at 50yds shooting at 195 yds target would need holdover just over four feet, around 52 inches. Thats with Hawke scope and software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 You can hit a running pheasant at 220 yards regularly ? Discs/targets have predictable movement if any so they don't count. I though it was a joke, meh.😶 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 I though it was a joke, meh. i am sure it was colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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