dead eye alan Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Thinking of a new dog the wife wants a lap dog i want a gun dog, am thinking maybe a Cockerpoo will fill both positions. Any body know if this is feasible? thanks in advance for any information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 The only cockerpoos I have met have been a bit more hyper and harder to train than a cocker. There was one at the Gundog training classes I went to. The owner gave up halfway through the classes although this might have been the owner or just that dog. A lot of cockerpoos are from the show cocker as well which doesn't help. Why not get two dogs. The wife can have her lapdog and you can get a proper gundog then. Two dogs are company for each other and you and your wife can do the basic obedience, socialising puppy classes together, then you can carry on with the gundog training on yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson_tom Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Problem is they are mainly bred for show, normally toy poodle and show cocker. Both pretty far away from a hunting dog. If it was a working cocker and a proper poodle then it would be a different matter, realistically though i dont think such a dog exists. To be honest a small cocker would quite happily be a lap dog when it comes home from a long days shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PERCE Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 To be honest a small cocker would quite happily be a lap dog when it comes home from a long days shooting. Most of them will quite happily be a lap dog during a days shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee-kinsman Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Get a well bred cocker, it will happily fulfill both roles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Having an 8 month old version at home, I can only agree. Get a well bred cocker, it will happily fulfill both roles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) My cockerpoo is more poodle than anything else,the other side is working cocker. He isint a gun dog however easily could be. He happily hunts rabbits on next doors fields and if you throw something he will sniff it out and bring it straight back. He also loves water. They are very clever dogs and are full of energy with a little bit of disobedience which means he tests the waters every now and then. They like a good hour a day of exercise or get a bit hyper in the evening. Could they be a gun dog? Yes. Are their better guns dogs? Yes would i have another one? In a flash Edited October 12, 2016 by GingerCat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Les Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Only know of 1 and it wears a rain coat and is called George. The owners are a bit soft and carry it if its muddy and it sleeps in their bed with its own wee pillow. Im sure someone will have one as a decent gun dog but youd probably be better going for something else that fits the wifes needs and yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 I go with the trend, all the cockers I have seen have been more than happy to be cuddled and would advise getting a good working strain dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted October 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Thanks very much for all the replies, particularly GingerCat who owns one, the other reason we thought of a Cockerpoo is thy don't malt the wife is very house proud. Am now looking at puppy's will let you know how we get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Our little cocker doesn't moult anywhere near as much as the Lab. A cocker/poodle cross is unlikely to make it as gundog. Thanks very much for all the replies, particularly GingerCat who owns one, the other reason we thought of a Cockerpoo is thy don't malt the wife is very house proud. Am now looking at puppy's will let you know how we get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted October 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Our little cocker doesn't moult anywhere near as much as the Lab. A cocker/poodle cross is unlikely to make it as gundog. I don't want a full blown gun dog just a retriever to pick up the pigeons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 No, but you do want a gundog of some sort I believe, and realistically, that ain't going to be a Cocker/Poodle cross. I don't want a full blown gun dog just a retriever to pick up the pigeons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/getting-a-dog-or-puppy/finding-the-right-dog/non-shedding-breeds-of-dog/ Bedlingtons have been used as gundogs. Also irish water spaniel. Both non shedding. Underdog who used to post on here had a bedlington cross as à gundog. He used to tuck it under his arm. Edited October 14, 2016 by loriusgarrulus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowdie2013 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just out of interest Is a cockerpoo a recognised breed? Know a few folk with half decent springadors and other mongrel types that are good dogs but couldn't believe the high pup prices they paid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) Just for a giggle we took my fluffy cockerpoo that "Wont make it as a gun dog" and a friends golden lab from a good working line for a walk round his paddocks. The lab is seriously fast and full of energy (much faster than my ****weasel) however he couldn't find his backside with 4 paws and a tail pointing it out for him. What was clear is the little cockerpoo has one hell of a nose on him and will flush pretty much everything out of the field and happily bring his tennis ball back, in fact he wasnt leaving wothout it whereas the lab (despite training and being similar in age) didn't have the nose. Where am I gong with this? I'm not sure but I wouldnt write cockerpoo off immediately and this one would easily fetch pigeons back if trained for it (he brings them back now if I throw dead ones down the garden for him). Edited to add this one is an f2b and is more cocker by far. Still doesn't shed or smell and is perhaps a bit bigger than most at knee high. Edited October 15, 2016 by GingerCat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) You probably would not suggest a Jack Russell as a gun dog but I have seen two such terriers which retrieved pheasants with the best of them and not a fang mark, frequently found on these over hyped high speed retrieving machines, where the bird is grabbed hard for a fast instant return against the clock. Their little mouth would not go around the breast and they carried the bird by the wing root. I'm pretty certain should you choose to have one of those little cockerpoos and put in the time then the dog would do the job. By far the best dog I will ever own was a choccy lab which as a 6month old puppy, a so called pro trainer declared would not make it and could not jump higher than a foot or so due to the straightness of it's back legs. That dog was the greatest bird finder/retriever anyone would ever want on land and water and was jumping five barred gates when he was 11 yrs of age and lived to 14yrs. His favourite joke was to jump a gate under the nose of someone just astride the gate in a precarious position. I never taught him to do that ..honest ! Edited October 15, 2016 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 How are standard poodles as gin dogs. That could be a compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Standard poodles are/were used as water dogs for fowl. My little guy loves water, if we take him to the beach he often goes swimming off till you shout him back. Partocular loves ponds nd streams though,especially if they stink and you only washed him a day or so ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I'm going to surprise myself and say... Why not? Biggest problem you'll probably have is to stop the wife mollycoddling it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Nothing wrong with molly coddling your hunting pal big bird. The twelve dogs I have owned in my lifetime have all been treated better than family .... molly coddled if you want to call it that .... but have all served me well and given me great pleasure and been superb hunters/retrievers. Go for it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 My wifes littleYorkiepoo has one hell of a nose on him and regularly finds stuff my working cocker runs over, but try getting it off him not a chance its now his Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 http://www.foxislegundogs.co.uk/stud.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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