Sha Bu Le Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 BBC Breakfast this a.m. Article re the feral boars in the Forest of Dean, there is a cull (of sorts) going on carried out by the forestry commission. The BBC in its unbiased fairness gave a few seconds air time to a member of a group calling themselves 'Friends of the Boar' who claimed that the cull far from being effective was actually making things worse. How does that work, anyone know ? surely see boar shoot boar one boar less. The guy did not expand on his claim Unless it is usual tree hugger propaganda to discredit the cull. Be interested in the knowledgeable opinions of experienced boar shooters on PW Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Im no boar shooter but im thinking more air time for the anti rather than any actual reason... Probably doesn't live near or get effected by the population of boar Edited October 18, 2016 by ShootingEgg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just to play devil's advocate, you have to shoot the correct Boar. Shoot the Sow and the Frieshling can go a bit uncontrollably berserk like unruly teenagers causing more damge than would have happened if 'mum' had kept them a little more under control. Every days a school day. Did not know this.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Aye wot fister said, other countries have noticed it first esp if ur shoooting the largest trophy animals which will usually be the matrichal?(dominant) sow. Boar seem to live in a family groups and the dominat sow controls the breeding only allowing herself to get lined at the right time off year, if u shoot the dominat sow all the young sows will start breeding and they can breed at almost any time of year. So u can get mini population explosions after shooting a dominat sow and damage tends to go up as the younger ones not kept inine. Think there used to be a website british boar or something nd it is very informative and pretty unbaised. So shooting anything on sight could make the problem worse, but u stil need to hammer them quite prolific breeders and can cause massive damage to crops or lawns so not controlling them is not an option either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Bu Le Posted October 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just watched the item again (Breakfast does tend to go around in circles (Mrs SBL was talking over the guy)) according to the fiends of the boar (skit intended) if a sow with piglets is shot the young scatter into the forest. But is that not the lifestyle of wild pigs anyway. Don't imagine it will be easy to hunt wild pigs, probably scattered all over the forest in maybe family groups. Guess it would take a very experienced person to stalk them and see them off. However as I'm not wild pig savvy what do I know. Beauty of PW there is always someone who does know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Bu Le Posted October 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Thanks lads I can see reason in your replies and Scotslad has maybe hit the nail on the head. Fister that's two new things I've learned, did not know Frieshling were young boar. Thanks again all. ATB Bri Edited October 18, 2016 by Sha Bu Le Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just to play devil's advocate, you have to shoot the correct Boar. Shoot the Sow and the Frieshling can go a bit uncontrollably berserk like unruly teenagers causing more damge than would have happened if 'mum' had kept them a little more under control. I think that was mentioned in the segment i saw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 So shooting the wrong one has a detrimental affect. So shooting more of them should counteract that, simples. Why do people look at the complicated things in these situations, instead of the simple solution. Typical management bumf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 So shooting the wrong one has a detrimental affect. So shooting more of them should counteract that, simples. Why do people look at the complicated things in these situations, instead of the simple solution. Typical management bumf. Not really, u only have to look across europe to see how badly wrong they've managed boar in the past and how quick they've bred and colonised new areas, all made worse by shooting the bigger ones first. Shooting lots of the right 1's is the way to go. but If u shot the dominat sow instead of 1 sow being pregnant once a year u could have 5 or 6 sows out of same group pregnant at any time of the year, so it makes typical male/female deer seasons impossible to work (like muntjac). Really no different to ur highland/upland red hind stalking, u really don't want to be taking out the dominat/matrialarchial hinds which keep the group together and know there territory well for finding food/shelter for 12months of the year Also when the lead sow is shot their behaviour seems to change and they start to be more destructive, so making problems worse. Most boar in uk wil be shot at night in lamp/nv often at a feed station rather than stalked so u will have the chance to pick which boar u shoot. Very clever animals and absolutely beautiful to eat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussexboy Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Why would you shoot the bigger ones? The younger ones taste much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 They made a good job of that blokes lawn. Looked like it had been subsoiled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Why would you shoot the bigger ones? The younger ones taste much better Because it's going the way of deer stalking,people paying to stalk or shoot from towers, bigger is better. Everyone wants to shoot a trophy monster nobody wants to shoot a piglet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 In a few weeks I am in Slovenia and have three days driven shooting, some of which will be wild boar. The instructions are we can shoot any male pig but NO sows. We can shoot any of the small followers, male or female. Slovenia has some excellent game management, unlike our Forestry Commission who usually wait until things get out of hand and then go in mob handed and shoot everything and anything which moves and with a lamp. BUT, of course they are the experts aren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fruity Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) "Sha Bu Le" post="3149761" timestamp="1476771369"] BBC Breakfast this a.m. Article re the feral boars in the Forest of Dean, there is a cull (of sorts) going on carried out by the forestry commission. The BBC in its unbiased fairness gave a few seconds air time to a member of a group calling themselves 'Friends of the Boar' who claimed that the cull far from being effective was actually making things worse. How does that work, anyone know ? surely see boar shoot boar one boar less. The guy did not expand on his claim Unless it is usual tree hugger propaganda to discredit the cull. Be interested in the knowledgeable opinions of experienced boar shooters on pw . Friends of the boar lol . If you have Facebook or access to it , have a look at forest of Dean wild boar cull saboteur page and you will see why , not only FC staff but riflemen on private ground are having problems with the extreme anti,s ,sorry 'friends of the boar' Edited October 22, 2016 by fruity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scotslad Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 In a few weeks I am in Slovenia and have three days driven shooting, some of which will be wild boar. The instructions are we can shoot any male pig but NO sows. We can shoot any of the small followers, male or female. Slovenia has some excellent game management, unlike our Forestry Commission who usually wait until things get out of hand and then go in mob handed and shoot everything and anything which moves and with a lamp. BUT, of course they are the experts aren't they? Depending where u are in UK, but i'd say u are a bit harsh on the FC, generally the FC woods esp with deer are pretty well managed, and if ur in england they won't be lamping any deer as EN never issues night licences (different story in scotland thou). On most FC woods no longer allowed to shoot foxes The boar are a funny thing as strictly speaking don't damage trees so the FC doesn't actually need to control them the way it does deer and there is a surprising number of bunny huggers and powerful/connested folk that actually want to see wild boar become re-establishe din the UK the way the used to be. They really don't seem to be able to grasp that the UK has changed beyond belief (woodland area/type, agriculture, population, roads etc) since the last time boar roamed free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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