novice cushie shooter Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Been in the same pheasant syndicate with my dad and friends for about 20 years now and today is the first time i have sat here after a shoot and considered my options. I have always enjoyed my fellow guns company and we have went through quite a lot together but some folks ignorance is astounding. were not a big shoot afew birds and banter is what its about not big bags. A guest who shoots regularly with us had his young lab with him and asked for a stone dead retrieve. Last drive one was shot in an open grass field so a stander shouted to anyone with a dog to leave it for the young dog. The so called head beater ignored this and sent his dog. I was raging with this. What compounded this anger was the drive previous he asked all beaters to put there dogs on leads and his proceeded to finish the drive in 30 seconds. He has been told on numerous times about this but ignores all advice. Trouble is he brings his son in law and a few teens to help so the captain is reluctant to let him go. Trouble is i got my FAC and thats the only ground i have to shoot on and my dad is in the same syndicate and is getting on a bit so i like being with him. Why cant folk be normal and not a holes?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumphant59 Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Most shoots unfortunately have a resident a hole! Just ignore them and don't let them spoil your day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 You still could have put a bird out for the dog to retrieve. Easiest way is to have a word with the head beater and just let him know in future when asked its not a multiple choice question as the only answer is do as asked. We all need good beaters but none that think they can do as they please especially after being asked to do or not do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novice cushie shooter Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 True. I think most that witnessed it including the guy wanting the retrieve were pead off they just wanted to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Well who had a word with him ? No good all being annoyed but not saying anything. If you've had a word and he keeps doing stuff like that then it's up to you to tell him he isn't welcome to come back. If your not willing to do that then it's no good complaining about him week after week is it ? Just going to annoy yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novice cushie shooter Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 It goes throught the shoot captain. He has had countless words with him but doesn't want to tell him not to come back as we struggle to get beaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 If he has had a warning and still continues it would be best for him to leave because it will only get worse and end up with the syndicate breaking up . but maybe that what he wants. Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 If he has had a warning and still continues it would be best for him to leave because it will only get worse and end up with the syndicate breaking up . but maybe that what he wants. Feltwad I wouldn't want to beat on a shoot with someone like this fella you describe also! Maybe he's one of the reasons you can't get many beaters. Also, if you keep giving warnings but their is no end limit then the warning is meaningless. If there have truly been 'countless' words then I'd of asked him to not come back a long time ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Blimey, what a tool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novice cushie shooter Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Hes not that clever feltwad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant1 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 put a add for beaters on here. I am sure you would get a few offers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 The shoot captain is not doing his duty to the shoot by allowing this behaviour to continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Simple solution 😊 Ask him to bring his gun next time 😗 He would then be the guest ask if he wants to pick his own birds Get someone else to run the beating line and see if it's better without him on it If it is Remind him that you pay the bills on the shoot and he is STAFF!!! Obviously send your dogs for his birds all day Just turning it round There are a few of the beaters that have the attitude that the day can't happen without them forgetting that without the investment of the guns none would happen Sad but true ☹️️ Or front him up and tell him to shape up or ship out the graveyard is full of people that thought they were indispensable Just a few options to consider Maybe it will help though sadly I don't think it will and your better off getting rid All the best Of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novice cushie shooter Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Good advice gents. Old farrier wouldnt trust him with a gun tbh. Hardly trust him with a walkie-talkie. I have calmed a bit and will phone the captain for a chat this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose man Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Nobody is indispensable...you may well find the people he brings would still come anyway ..even if they never fewer beaters that do what you want is better than what you have ..he needs telling straight . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Good advice gents. Old farrier wouldnt trust him with a gun tbh. Hardly trust him with a walkie-talkie. I have calmed a bit and will phone the captain for a chat this week. Just invite him to stand with you then maybe he hasn't a clue about the shooting side of the day Trying to be nice and educat him 😗 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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