misser Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Unfortunately at the weekend dropped my s/s aya, cracked the straight hand stock at the thinnest part ie where the trigger guard back screw is located. It is a split along the grain about half way through. can anyone recommend the best wood glue, do i just open it up glue it and g clamp it......any info from the more hands on pw massive appreciated....atb.,...misser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/343374-glueing-a-stock/?hl=cascamite&do=findComment&comment=3130264 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) Hi post some pictures if it's clean through I prefer an extra strong expoy like accraglass. I'll put up an example later. https://www.facebook.com/DMShooting.co.uk/posts/619679871538794 Edited October 24, 2016 by welshwarrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 2 Tube GORILLA GLUE,,,Cheap too. Then buy a Mtr of catty elastic,,Bind it with that,No G Clamps.. Leave 2/3 Days,,Then try and Break it.lol.. Having not seen it,,you can use small home made dowels,,Make sure the grain runs the same way on the END of the Dowels,Even better if you can use the checkering to hide it..??. B O L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misser Posted October 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 thanks gents..its not clean through...same place as clean break in your pic welshwarrior, about half way through and the split is horizontal.will try and post a pic....thanks again...atb....misser. forgot to ask why no g clamps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 thanks gents..its not clean through...same place as clean break in your pic welshwarrior, about half way through and the split is horizontal.will try and post a pic....thanks again...atb....misser. forgot to ask why no g clamps? "G" Clamps produce pressure in one area.. Catty Elastic, Pulls in ALL DIRECTIONS, and no squashing even if you protect with thick leather.. As above equal pressure squeezing from all directions,get a much better matching at the break.. B O L . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipper Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Best person in Bolton with wood who did work for all gun shops .Always used cascamite.Dipper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Best person in Bolton with wood who did work for all gun shops .Always used cascamite.Dipper. +1 for Cascamite. A very strong bond once set. There are many other good glue products on the market though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 W W those before and after pictures will bring hope to many, excellent repair, should encourage those with mishaps to seek you out and listen to your wise words when posted. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 All according to how badly it is split, you may just be advised to put a couple of dowels through the break. You might be lucky and be able to hide these behind the metal strap along the bottom side. You don't need to go right through as long as the dowel reaches both sides of the split. Very often I have seen stock cracks screwed in the past but modern glues and a couple of small diameter dowels should do the job. Done it twice so I know the pain. Mine was on the same Army & Navy 100plus year old 16 gauge and involved new stocks both times. Best of luck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Best person in Bolton with wood who did work for all gun shops .Always used cascamite.Dipper. Could he do anything with doors I wonder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Best person in Bolton with wood who did work for all gun shops .Always used cascamite.Dipper. Could he do anything with doors I wonder Dont know if he covered Burnley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 I often find a cross pin no longer needed and use other methods to add strength with out showing often hidden under a tigger guard or top strap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 W W those before and after pictures will bring hope to many, excellent repair, should encourage those with mishaps to seek you out and listen to your wise words when posted. Thank you Thanks it's a mans pride and joy so it was really nice to get him using it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 dipper - is that Harry in Bolton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 I usually inlet a piece between the break - if you want lasting repair i would suggest you send it to someone who does stock work - its more difficult to repair these kind of breaks "the second time around" as if its send to you right after its broken a skilled hand can make an invisible, lasting and cost effective repair. This gun was repaired "second time around" - Originally repaired with wood glue and a furniture screw running through it which obviously worked for a while but eventually gave out. The line up was not as good as it could have been and the glue cracked out, the screw hole quickly then wore out. Before Stripping oils from the stock to give the glue the best chance of bonding. The gun repaired and reassembled prepping for refinishing. This was a gun i bought to sell on and to test how the repair work would hold up to normal use over time - this stock shows no sign of movement in the repair and has been put through its paces plenty since. Embarrassment and apologies about my shameless self promotion - If your interested in my work or simply like pictures of guns take look through my gallery here: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/woodworking_gunsmith/?hl=en Or facebook page here: https://www.facebook.com/TheWoodworkingGunsmith/ Hope this is okay with mods. James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Dont apologise and do not be embarrassed looking through your picture gallery shows some first class work there which must interest most shooting people. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 James keep it up we've had a few good chats about these sorts of breaks and best way to repair them when done properly they solider on and on. Atvb Daf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misser Posted October 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 thanks for all the replys gents....the split was very similar to the black and white pic in demonwolfs post but not all the way through.....well tried my hand at gluing and using catty elastic but this didnt work...well it did for about half a dozen shots, cant see what ive done wrong to be honest...next attempt will be to try and pin with dowel,....its only abit tatty aya yeoman so monetarily is not worth much but sentimentally a lot as was given to me by an old wildfowler ...next question is anyone any ideas where i could get an old aya stock from condition is immaterial....will put an add on here as one never knows... thanks atb...misser.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 wabbit bosher on here might have something lying about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 thanks for all the replys gents....the split was very similar to the black and white pic in demonwolfs post but not all the way through.....well tried my hand at gluing and using catty elastic but this didnt work...well it did for about half a dozen shots, cant see what ive done wrong to be honest...next attempt will be to try and pin with dowel,....its only abit tatty aya yeoman so monetarily is not worth much but sentimentally a lot as was given to me by an old wildfowler ...next question is anyone any ideas where i could get an old aya stock from condition is immaterial....will put an add on here as one never knows... thanks atb...misser.. Phone the ASI werehouse...(AYA).........you might be surprised.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 I usually inlet a piece between the break - if you want lasting repair i would suggest you send it to someone who does stock work - its more difficult to repair these kind of breaks "the second time around" as if its send to you right after its broken a skilled hand can make an invisible, lasting and cost effective repair. This gun was repaired "second time around" - Originally repaired with wood glue and a furniture screw running through it which obviously worked for a while but eventually gave out. The line up was not as good as it could have been and the glue cracked out, the screw hole quickly then wore out. Before Stripping oils from the stock to give the glue the best chance of bonding. The gun repaired and reassembled prepping for refinishing. This was a gun i bought to sell on and to test how the repair work would hold up to normal use over time - this stock shows no sign of movement in the repair and has been put through its paces plenty since. Embarrassment and apologies about my shameless self promotion - If your interested in my work or simply like pictures of guns take look through my gallery here: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/woodworking_gunsmith/?hl=en Or facebook page here: https://www.facebook.com/TheWoodworkingGunsmith/ Hope this is okay with mods. James. Really appreciate the effort gone into your work. Top Class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Thanks guys I appreciate the kind words! This forum and Daf have been exceptional helpful over the years, I doubt I would be doing any of this if it wasn't for PW forums and the great guys and gals who populate it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Really appreciate the effort gone into your work. Top Class. +1............encouragement for us all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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