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I seem to be doing and more importantly, enjoying a lot more clay shooting these days. I love my beretta semi in the pigeon hide and have been using it for clays, along with the odd round with the sxs. Picking up the empties from outside the hide at the end of the day is no major drama, but on a busy clay ground it can be a PITA with a queue of people behind you.

So ive decided to invest in an O/U for clays. I dont like black actions but do like good wood(yes I know it wont help my score!)

The ones i'm looking at are Browning Ultra XS Prestige, Miroku MK38 Grade 5 Teague Sporter, Beretta 692 and Browning 725(Benelli 828u as well before I spoke to Welshwarrior!)

I understand that the one to choose is the one that fits the best but just wondered what other owners views were on these guns, or is there anything else I should be looking at?

I travel all around the South in my job, so there are no problems getting into various gunshops for a waggle.

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The Browning XS and Miroku MK38 are basically the same gun. I have owned a couple of each of them. I have also owned a few Beretta 682E Golds.

 

I haven't shot the 725 or 692, but they are not dramatically different to their predecessors. Nothing to watch out for as they are all fine guns.

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The Browning XS and Miroku MK38 are basically the same gun. I have owned a couple of each of them. I have also owned a few Beretta 682E Golds.

 

I haven't shot the 725 or 692, but they are not dramatically different to their predecessors. Nothing to watch out for as they are all fine guns.

 

Miroku seems to be better wood though, but i have heard of people having to add lead to the stock to help it balance(upto 9oz!)-think this was maybe a 32" gun though. I would be looking at a 30" gun.

 

Had a 682 gold e about 10 years ago, didnt think of one of those, still solid guns i assume?

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Sporting mainly, would an adjustable comb make it more multi use?

That would depend as to what level you want to shoot at. If you want to shoot mainly sporting but try other disaplins the stick with a sporter. Yes you can adjust the POA with an adjustable comb so it acts like a trap gun but there are things to consider. I sometimes use a .410 pump at DTL. Yes it will break the clays but it's not ideal Haha

 

If you want to shoot at comp level I would say get a gun dedicated for you chosen disaplin

 

Trap guns and sporters are set up quite differently

The best thing is to try some different guns at different disaplins and see what you think

I have a couple of 692 one trap and a sporter and they shoot very very different. I like to use the trap gun for fitasc and a bit of sporting. But I don't like the feel of the sporter when shooting trap. It's just not the same in my book. But we're all different

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The MK38 Grade 5 Teague Sporter is a fantastic competition winning gun, especially for the price. I don't think you can get a comparable gun for much under £4K. Personally I think they are now better made than the Brownings they are based on. I've noticed a few corners cut on recent Brownings, such as ejectors dropping to bits and other cheaper looking components. Miroku still seem to be making them to their own quality standards.

It's a very versatile gun you can use for everything including a posh game shoot.

They are perfectly balanced and I've never heard of anyone adding weight to them, maybe they just wanted it handling in a particular way. I've certainly never considered it on my 30" one.

The adjustable comb is probably worth having as you can get it fitted just right, or raise and lower the comb when changing between trap and sporting if it suits you that way.

I have a few guns and recently bought a Blaser F3 and was meant to be trading the MK38 in but when it came down to it I couldn't part with it.

It's the only gun I've kept and never swapped out for something "better".

If it fits you I really don't think you'll be disappointed.

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Thought the MK38 and the Brownings clays guns were all made in the same factory by BC.Miroku and are both owned by BWM arms. Just can't see how or why they would fit different parts on the same gun in the same factory.

They are but there are a lot more Browning models than Miroku's and they seem to be sticking to the same core models and keeping the quality up from what I've seen. I certainly haven't heard of (and seen) any Miroku's going rusty and having bits drop off like I have with a lot of Brownings recently.

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The ones i'm looking at are Browning Ultra XS Prestige, Miroku MK38 Grade 5 Teague Sporter, Beretta 692 and Browning 725(Benelli 828u as well before I spoke to Welshwarrior!)

You could also consider any of about 4 models of CG in that price range. The Summit Ascent/Impact family for example started the multi discipline gun concept, now copied by almost everyone else, but also the fixed stock sporters are higher in the comb than most others on your list which makes them okay for casual trap shooting as well as sporting.

 

Edit: Just noticed you're in Hampshire so if you're interested in CGs why not drop in to Owl's Lodge and see Richard Faulds. He may well have a demo gun available.

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You could also consider any of about 4 models of CG in that price range. The Summit Ascent/Impact family for example started the multi discipline gun concept, now copied by almost everyone else, but also the fixed stock sporters are higher in the comb than most others on your list which makes them okay for casual trap shooting as well as sporting.

 

Edit: Just noticed you're in Hampshire so if you're interested in CGs why not drop in to Owl's Lodge and see Richard Faulds. He may well have a demo gun available.

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The MK38 handles very differently to the 725 so as mentioned above I would try both. Also if you intend to get into Registered comps, then I would go for 32" tubes. As with any of them, you may need to balance the gun to handle the way that you like to shoot. I personally like my guns to balance back from the hinge pin.

 

I have both the Miroku and the 725, I also met up with the MD of browning UK last week at a clay ground to demo the new 725 Pro Shooter. It comes with lots of options to aid initial Gunfit and is a great handling gun. It comes with barrel weights, stock weights and an adjustable comb.

 

However I changed the standard Chokes on mine for lighter aftermarket Chokes in order to fine tune the handling for the way that I like a gun to handle. The standard DS Chokes 40grms each .. aftermarket 18grms each.

 

So in my opinion it would be best to get to a ground and try them out...

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Bought a Browning XS couple of months ago, shot a slab through it and sold it. Heavy gun which i didn t like the balance. Was ultra so nice wood etc. Sure lots of people love them. Lesson here is you can t tell from shouldering themm in the shop.

 

I agree that it is a heavy gun but this is not a disadvantage. I personally love my Ultra XS 30'', bought it 10 years ago and shoot it every week. It was slightly nose heavy but I added 4 oz to the stock which suited me better.

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The MK38 handles very differently to the 725 so as mentioned above I would try both. Also if you intend to get into Registered comps, then I would go for 32" tubes. As with any of them, you may need to balance the gun to handle the way that you like to shoot. I personally like my guns to balance back from the hinge pin.

I have both the Miroku and the 725, I also met up with the MD of browning UK last week at a clay ground to demo the new 725 Pro Shooter. It comes with lots of options to aid initial Gunfit and is a great handling gun. It comes with barrel weights, stock weights and an adjustable comb.

However I changed the standard Chokes on mine for lighter aftermarket Chokes in order to fine tune the handling for the way that I like a gun to handle. The standard DS Chokes 40grms each .. aftermarket 18grms each.

So in my opinion it would be best to get to a ground and try them out...

Sorry if this is a daft question, but why are 32" tubes better for registerec comps?

Im only 5'7" in high heels!

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I agree that it is a heavy gun but this is not a disadvantage. I personally love my Ultra XS 30'', bought it 10 years ago and shoot it every week. It was slightly nose heavy but I added 4 oz to the stock which suited me better.

The current model Browning Ultra XS has lighter barrels and is about the right weight for a competition sporter at 8lb 3oz. It's a different beast from the original XS and it's my favourite sporter in the Browning/Miroku lineup. But it's in a price sector with some really serious competitors. Apart from those already mentioned there's now the Blaser F16 and of course pre-loved DT-10s.

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