walt1980 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 I've just started reloading, loads to learn but getting there slowly. So how many people think that given that cartridge price have gone up twice now in 6 months, and rumours are they'll be rising again possibly before Easter, do you think more people will start reloading cartridges? I've been surprised even using a Lee Loadall 2 how quick you can load them. It's not really worth loading clay loads for general clay breaking, people will use cheap cartridges. But if like me you don't shoot loads of pigeon/game cartridges a year (under 1500) will more people go down the reloading route?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 I have also noticed a lot more interest by members on here wanting to get into reloading. Wheter is's for money saving or not I do not know. Personally I'm not that interested in the money saving side of it although I'm sure I will save a few quid reloading for the 410. I love the researching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt1980 Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Exactly the same reason for me, the money side wasn't a reason at all. Quite like knowing what's going on inside a cartridge and why and what effect changes make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) As above, reloading does not pay for some cartridge lines (where mass manufacturers tend to live), however for small bores, custom quirky loads, heavier loads and especially non-toxic, reloading is the way to go. I have noticed recently manufacturers are following a certain mindset (not always beneficial) for larger pellets to increase hitting power or lighter loads for economy (or even combining both) to the detriment of some good balanced cartridge lines. In some respects this is encouraging reloading as they are ignoring a significant part of the shooting market to concentrate on the mass market as they perceive it. Edited February 22, 2017 by Stonepark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 As above, reloading does not pay for some cartridge lines (where mass manufacturers tend to live), however for small bores, custom quirky loads, heavier loads and especially non-toxic, reloading is the way to go. I have noticed recently manufacturers are following a certain mindset (not always beneficial) for larger pellets to increase hitting power or lighter loads for economy (or even combining both) to the detriment of some good balanced cartridge lines. In some respects this is encouraging reloading as they are ignoring a significant part of the shooting market to concentrate on the mass market as they perceive it. Yep. If you'd like more information, please Contact Eley Hawk Please get in touch we are always happy to hear from you. If it’s a query about our products, where you can buy them from how our products performed your comments are important to us. Either click the link below or use one of our social media channels to get in touch. Unless, of course, you do so to politely enquire about the long term (or not) future of their HV Pigeon 32g 6&1/2 shot. Still waiting for an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 its probably due to availability issues. shells are made in production runs because they are very expensive to store (limited amount of powder too.) clay shells are made continually, as the demand for them is alot more than the seasonal game shells. supply and demand ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenergp Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 I reload so i can get the cartridge type i want. i go wildfowling and when i go into my local gunshop they only have a few steel loads at best, but by reloading i can decide on what shot type or size i want to use, i can also load some cartridges that are not commercially available, this coming season i am going to do more copper loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Yep. If you'd like more information, pleaseContact Eley Hawk Please get in touch we are always happy to hear from you. If it’s a query about our products, where you can buy them from how our products performed your comments are important to us. Either click the link below or use one of our social media channels to get in touch. Unless, of course, you do so to politely enquire about the long term (or not) future of their HV Pigeon 32g 6&1/2 shot. Still waiting for an answer. Well, that's that - finally got a reply. The HV Pigeon 32g 6&1/2s are no longer produced and all stocks have been depleted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Well, that's that - finally got a reply. The HV Pigeon 32g 6&1/2s are no longer produced and all stocks have been depleted. in fibre or plastic wad thanks george Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 I reload so i can get the cartridge type i want. i go wildfowling and when i go into my local gunshop they only have a few steel loads at best, but by reloading i can decide on what shot type or size i want to use, i can also load some cartridges that are not commercially available, this coming season i am going to do more copper loads. This is the main reason why i reload you can get the loads you want in the shot size you want, and reloading can save you time and money if you have to travel a distance to get the loads you want to use. Reloading you have what you want when you want it without leaving home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt1980 Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Well, that's that - finally got a reply. The HV Pigeon 32g 6&1/2s are no longer produced and all stocks have been depleted. Still available in a 6 tho aren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Still available in a 6 tho aren't they? Bearing in mind we're talking about the HV version. it's more accurate to say that whereas previously they were only available in 6&1/2s, they're now only available in 6s. So, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) I would like to start but just dont have the time to get a setup going and them developing loads, so for me I buy cartridges in bulk shared with a couple of mates and its makes it reasonable despite the price increase. I have only every reloaded CF and that was mainly as I shot in service rifle comps at Bisley and the cost of match ammunition in .303, .223 or 6.5x55SM was prohibitive, and even green spot milsurp stuff was pretty inconsistent. That was in the days though before kids came along and I could quite happily spend many hours working up loads in the spare room! Edited March 1, 2017 by Wingman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 for me, reloading is a bit of fun/ thats all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m greeny Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Also been toying with the idea of reloading so been doing a bit of research and my head is bamboozled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Also been toying with the idea of reloading so been doing a bit of research and my head is bamboozled no bamboozled. buy a book, and read. first you need equiptment, such as a scale. after i read lyman 5th shotshell reloading book. my first shells were 32g #2 steel in a 3" hull. after that i started making using lead.... what if often the mistake, of buying random components and hoping they will work. lead shot is nearly always the universal component. thats it. find a recipe you`d like to make, ask on here for decent recipe. buy only the components for that recipe, assemble the shells. go shoot the shells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1961 Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Theirs nothing like dropping a pidgeon at distance with a cartridge that you have developed and made its addictive to say the least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 i`m just going to put a few words together.... first, i love teaching people how to reload. i teach anyone who will listen. i do this because reloading is a passion. but its not without trouble. usually the person has little or no experience in shell manufacturing and often would never get a book. i learned from a book, and some online resources. but i`m competing against youtube guys like dodgy cowboy reloading, and i`m horrified by some of the practices. when that is there easily aquired resource... i had a discussion with a guy whos main argument was, Q; why would i have help from you, when i can ask my friends down the pub? i couldnt believe thats a main argument. of course he and i had many arguments mainly because he is confused with grams of lead and grains of powder, claiming a 32g load has 32grains of powder. (end result was he blew up a baikal !) then, i`m competing against gunshop retailers.... who sell random powders or random components to potentially new reloaders. they have turned up, "i bought this- for my shotgun will it work?" it can be absolutely anything. from the wrong powder, wrong or antique wads, hulls that are rusted. or anything from "i want to reload shells to be cheaper, i have a budget of £20, and i`d like 1000shells" i do try to help and educate people, but when you get yourubers reloading, salt, playdough, jelly beans, educating these new reloaders, that creates problems, problems that its hard for me to educate them out of that thinking, but then they are re-asured by other youtubers doing the same thing.... if my passion was reloading only, i would never have ever tried to teach anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m greeny Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 no bamboozled. buy a book, and read. first you need equiptment, such as a scale. after i read lyman 5th shotshell reloading book. my first shells were 32g #2 steel in a 3" hull. after that i started making using lead.... what if often the mistake, of buying random components and hoping they will work. lead shot is nearly always the universal component. thats it. find a recipe you`d like to make, ask on here for decent recipe. buy only the components for that recipe, assemble the shells. go shoot the shells. Steel goose loads are what I'm interested in to go through my 12. 3inch or 3 1/2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 3" is a fantastic chassis to reload. i done a few loads of nontoxic.i wouldnt mind doing hw13, but the last lot failed at proofhouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 M Greeny. Reloading is very simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 M Greeny. Reloading is very simple. The loading process is very simple. from all types of shell, if you gain the right simple skills, then you can reload pretty much anything (shotgun related) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m greeny Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 The loading process is very simple. from all types of shell, if you gain the right simple skills, then you can reload pretty much anything (shotgun related) Thanks i will hopefully get the hang of it. i know a couple of lads that reload so they should help me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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