kaunda Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 First woman Commissioner appointed - hope she can handle this poisoned chalice.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69chris Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 for a salary of £270,648, plus benefits of course , i'd give it a go too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) Cressida **** - carrying a little baggage, though Good grief, we are never going to be able to discuss this if the ruddy bad-language filter keeps objecting to her name. Cressida "Small Richard" Edited February 22, 2017 by amateur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaunda Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Despite the salary,the last two haven't been much cop (sorry). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Seems like being in charge of the operation which resulted in a innocent man being shot (in the head seven times I believe?) by the police did her career no harm at all! I trust positive discrimination played no part in this appointment? And it does show the Met as a glowing example of a non-discriminatory, equal opportunities employer! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLondon Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 London fire brigade recently appointed their first female chief officer as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 I feel certain that she will do the correct dance to whichever Party is playing the tune at any given time ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Seems like being in charge of the operation which resulted in a innocent man being shot (in the head seven times I believe?) by the police did her career no harm at all! I trust positive discrimination played no part in this appointment? And it does show the Met as a glowing example of a non-discriminatory, equal opportunities employer! Lol To be honest the role of Commissioner is more political than to do with policing. Regards the Tube shooting many people don't allow for the fact that at the time of the operation police were hunting for suicide bombers, not gunmen. The best way to stop someone triggering the device and blowing themselves and others up is to shoot them in the head. Now, put yourself in the position of those officers. If the suspect was a suicide bomber and managed to trigger the device they would be killed along with anyone else nearby. The carriage also held many people. Are you going to risk one shot hoping that it would do the job or use the multi shot burst option? And what if your colleague's gun misfired or he bottled it allowing the suspect an extra few seconds to trigger the device? Cressida Duck might have given the authorisation to take the suspect out, but she didn't write the tactics used on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 To be honest the role of Commissioner is more political than to do with policing. Regards the Tube shooting many people don't allow for the fact that at the time of the operation police were hunting for suicide bombers, not gunmen. The best way to stop someone triggering the device and blowing themselves and others up is to shoot them in the head. Now, put yourself in the position of those officers. If the suspect was a suicide bomber and managed to trigger the device they would be killed along with anyone else nearby. The carriage also held many people. Are you going to risk one shot hoping that it would do the job or use the multi shot burst option? And what if your colleague's gun misfired or he bottled it allowing the suspect an extra few seconds to trigger the device? Cressida Duck might have given the authorisation to take the suspect out, but she didn't write the tactics used on the day. I accept what you say...........re the actions of the police involved in the incident......but it seems some people, particularly from so called "underrepresented groups" appear to be on a fast track to high rank and stardom.........and nothing seems to dent that rise!........but from personal experience which has made me cynical and suspicious, I can't help but question appointments which appear to serve other purposes other than the ability to do the job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) Regards the Tube shooting many people don't allow for the fact that at the time of the operation police were hunting for suicide bombers, not gunmen. The best way to stop someone triggering the device and blowing themselves and others up is to shoot them in the head. Possibly but its more effective if you shoot the right person, to be fair she ordered the officers to stop him not shoot him, so the final responsibility rests with the officer that pulled the trigger. The last i heard she was looking for the top job here. A Metropolitan police's assistant commissioner is among three candidates being interviewed on Thursday for one of the most challenging jobs in UK policing – that of the chief constable of the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI). Edited February 22, 2017 by ordnance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 I accept what you say...........re the actions of the police involved in the incident......but it seems some people, particularly from so called "underrepresented groups" appear to be on a fast track to high rank and stardom.........and nothing seems to dent that rise!........but from personal experience which has made me cynical and suspicious, I can't help but question appointments which appear to serve other purposes other than the ability to do the job! Tell me about it. Being a white, male, heterosexual, able bodied person with no religious beliefs there wasn't much point in my applying for any top jobs Some of those who rose benefiting from their minority status are now shaping the way that the police operate. And it ain't good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klatuveradanikto Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 I used to drive Hogan- Howe when he was Merseyside C/C, i likened it to a chess game moving position for up coming jobs years in advance,she's part of the "CLUB" as i call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandringstar Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 ridiculous salary, pension and perks, for that, i would want a crime-free london, public sector largesse, ten times the average salary.........ludicrous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 ridiculous salary, pension and perks, for that, i would want a crime-free london, public sector largesse, ten times the average salary.........ludicrous It is around two-thirds of what the last Mayor of London received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandringstar Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 thats an outrage aswell, but this thread is about her, i get sick of these figures, its fantasy money for the average joe, when the public see very average people at best, becoming millionaires in the public sector, doing jobs that although big, are unremarkable, its insulting, none of these people do anything major, its jobs for the 'clique'. I know of a chief superintendant, who a few years back retired at 50 on a staggering pension, and walked straight into a private security job on a colossal wage, I cant see the amazing results that these people are being rewarded for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLuke Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) It is around two-thirds of what the last Mayor of London received. Source please London mayor position pays about £140,000/£150,000 from memory Edited February 22, 2017 by LondonLuke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 thats an outrage aswell, but this thread is about her, i get sick of these figures, its fantasy money for the average joe, when the public see very average people at best, becoming millionaires in the public sector, doing jobs that although big, are unremarkable, its insulting, none of these people do anything major, its jobs for the 'clique'. I know of a chief superintendant, who a few years back retired at 50 on a staggering pension, and walked straight into a private security job on a colossal wage, I cant see the amazing results that these people are being rewarded for. Really? You don't understand payment for expertise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandringstar Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) oh yeh, I understand payment for expertise, but there is no way this post should be paying more than Teresa may, the top dog, and that goes for any top job in the public sector, in my world, £100k is her salary, absolute tops, no bonuses, this isn't a private enterprise that she is employed by, its a state provision. £270k should be for top consultants in medicine who save the lives of kiddies. Not sure any of these recent commissioners would really be classed as experts would you? Edited February 22, 2017 by wandringstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Not sure any of these recent commissioners would really be classed as experts would you? Who would you employ as an expert in the senior management of policing above senior police managers then? Dont you understand that to compete for talent with the private sector, the public sector sometimes has to stump up too - otherwise the talent will go... straight to the private sector where the money is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandringstar Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) You have been listening to their spin too much, when i see people openly smoking dope at notting hill carnival, putting garlands over the police, and dancing with them and generally seeing them get belittled, on the advice of their superiors, then I know the show is being run by a load of non-experts. Are you referring to the now lord blair as a former expert? To answer your question, I would be looking at ex-military to take on these big posts, not lifetime students. And you haven't mentioned my valid point, about the prime minister the top dog, earning far less than this lady. Edited February 22, 2017 by wandringstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 You have been listening to their spin too much, when i see people openly smoking dope at notting hill carnival, putting garlands over the police, and dancing with them and generally seeing them get belittled, on the advice of their superiors, then I know the show is being run by a load of non-experts. Are you referring to the now lord blair as a former expert? To answer your question, I would be looking at ex-military to take on these big posts, not lifetime students. You keep going on your gut reaction to everything then rather than trying to understand anything about the subject, which it's clear you dont, sorry. That's your choice. As an aside, I'm ex military, and I wouldnt want them in charge of policing or any other matters beyond their current remit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandringstar Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) listen to your gut, its there for a reason. Edited February 22, 2017 by wandringstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 To answer your question, I would be looking at ex-military to take on these big posts, not lifetime students. Why x military. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Possibly but its more effective if you shoot the right person, to be fair she ordered the officers to stop him not shoot him, so the final responsibility rests with the officer that pulled the trigger. The last i heard she was looking for the top job here. I think we've been through this one on another post and since you can't see past your own obvious bias and agenda I'm not going to waist anymore breath on trying to educate you other than to say in the nicest possible way, you really are clueless on all forms of policing and although I dont claim to be a expert you really have made yourself look silly to anyone who does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandringstar Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Why x military. ? Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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