SECTION 5

[IAN88]

Other than Vets and slaughter men who else and for what reason can hold these firearms ?cheers

[steve_b_wales]

Sometimes a stalker can legally keep a pistol for humane dispatch, normally a .38 or .44 caliber. It depends on the police force in your area.

[Bleeh]

this question has been asked more than once - the search would of helped.

 

What you have to remember, that a section 5. allows someone who is not obviously a policeman, to carry an otherwise prohibited weapon, so think:-

 

1.) Very rare cases of pest control. - I know of one chap that has 357. 6 shot revoler on a section 5. He has this because he is a deer stalker/shooter of everything odd for the police. He is the chap that's called out when you have a bull charging around sainsburys, or a muntjac stuck in a sewage pipe. He is semi-employed by the police but it still took him the best part of 2 years of begging and re-applying to get this.

 

2.) High risk figurers. - For a while, I think ex-policemen in the 1990's could apply for pistols in IRA tensioned ireland, I think it's also possible for highly sensitive figures, say a diplomat or something, to get one in times that it is deemed needed.

 

3.) High risk non govermental agencies - Think the people who deal with nuclear waste and materials, transporting it and so on - and other important security people. (say some massively important bank or database or something).

 

and so on

[IAN88]

cheers

[Ozzy Fudd]

quick note - pistols are still legal in northern ireland, just have to be a member of a gun club to own one, a friend has a glock 17

[Baldrick]

this question has been asked more than once - the search would of helped.

 

What you have to remember, that a section 5. allows someone who is not obviously a policeman, to carry an otherwise prohibited weapon, so think:-

 

1.) Very rare cases of pest control. - I know of one chap that has 357. 6 shot revoler on a section 5. He has this because he is a deer stalker/shooter of everything odd for the police. He is the chap that's called out when you have a bull charging around sainsburys, or a muntjac stuck in a sewage pipe. He is semi-employed by the police but it still took him the best part of 2 years of begging and re-applying to get this.

 

2.) High risk figurers. - For a while, I think ex-policemen in the 1990's could apply for pistols in IRA tensioned ireland, I think it's also possible for highly sensitive figures, say a diplomat or something, to get one in times that it is deemed needed.

 

3.) High risk non govermental agencies - Think the people who deal with nuclear waste and materials, transporting it and so on - and other important security people. (say some massively important bank or database or something).

 

and so on

 

Bleeh, just to be pedantic, your example for point 3 falls within the remit of the Civil Nuclear Constabulary, who are almost all armed officers. Various military and police units also perform escort duties alongside the CNC.

 

Having an s5 authority for humane despatch is not that rare. It does take a fair bit of negotiation though.

[Bleeh]

Bleeh, just to be pedantic, your example for point 3 falls within the remit of the Civil Nuclear Constabulary, who are almost all armed officers. Various military and police units also perform escort duties alongside the CNC.

 

Having an s5 authority for humane despatch is not that rare. It does take a fair bit of negotiation though.

 

Well - it was a poor example then. Just think of a non-goverment group that can be put at high risk working with sensitive materials.

[pyr8]

program on the hunt shown the chap that looks after the hounds taking one of the older dogs out of the kennals and shooting it with a revolver.

[Breastman]

You can also get a Section 5 if you are an RFD who supplies section 5 users or if you are a property master/armourer for the tv/film industry.

 

A section 5 RFD goes to one of my clubs, the number of green-eyed monsters that come out when he uses his Skorpion machine-pistol is crazy (myself being one of them!)

 

Mark

Edited May 11, 2009 by Breastman

[al4x]

program on the hunt shown the chap that looks after the hounds taking one of the older dogs out of the kennals and shooting it with a revolver.

 

 

he'll be a knackerman as they along with vets usually have reason

[cubix]

As said, stalkers - but mainly for when you'd otherwise be trying to use a deer rifle in a confined space which would be dangerous or impractical e.g. following a deer into some dense woodland where you have to crawl on your hands and knees. I think you apply direct to the home office rather than the local police?

 

Does anyone know -

 

1. If you do have such a pistol can you use it at your club since it uses pistol calbre ammo? or does it have bee the regulation foot long?

 

2. Does a humane dispatch pistol still come under land clearance rules e.g. pistol is a 357 but land cleared for 243?

[ryantidgwell]

talking to my rfd today he has section 5 and he said he often uses his at the range . and he got his granted from home office to use deer shooting in confined spaces ie woodland etc

[CharlieT]

A pistol for humane dispatch has to be purchased from a section 5 dealer but when transferred to your fac becomes section 1. An application for such a pistol is made to your local firearms department, not the Home Office. Anyone who can demonstrate need such as farmers, knackermen, hunt servants and serious stalkers should be granted one. I would imagine that .32 is the most popular caliber.

[choke it]

i have 38/357

[Vince Green]

You can have a section 5 pistol on an FAC and there are people who have them, but not many. Its only a FAC and the procedure for applying for the licence is exactly the same. Its only the police and Home Office that control the criteria.

 

As with all licencing of firearms the devil is in the criteria. However, the two section 5 dealers I know in London seem to get enough business to keep their shops open and pay the rent. The sort of stuff they sell isn't bought by vets.

[starlight32]

Bleeh, just to be pedantic, your example for point 3 falls within the remit of the Civil Nuclear Constabulary, who are almost all armed officers. Various military and police units also perform escort duties alongside the CNC.

 

Having an s5 authority for humane despatch is not that rare. It does take a fair bit of negotiation though.

 

Baldrick is correct, the CNC perform all security on Nuclear installations now. Years ago only fuel movements had their armed presence.

 

On the section 5 bit, the couple of people I know that do have them are are unpleasant looking single shot guns which do not really resemble true firearms