Salop Matt Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Hi folks, My girlfriend bought herself a Carin terrior and now he is 9 months old ( just castraited) and learning at a good rate of knotts. Now after much talk of him being a "lap dog" i would like to go about proving people wrong if possible. Now in an ideal world i would love the dog to be at ease around shooting but also am curious if it would be possible to teach him to retreive shot pigeon and rabbit ( small stuff as he is small to) . Does anyone have any advice for me on this ? These are my questions: * Has anyone done this before ? * What will your carin do ? I would be happy if at the end it only ment that he would come shooting with me as company in the wood or hide and lie at my feet and follow me round without running off or round the place like a tazmainian devil ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Is he not a Cairn Terrier? WGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Your quite correct ! Being dyslexic i do struggle at times though :unsure: So is it a case of he will only ever be a ratting dog ? Even if he makes a shooting companian i will be very happy ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarlair Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 No experience of field working one but my cousin had one when I was younger and they are very loyal dogs. Trained properly I reckon he should "follow you around like a dog". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I think you'll struggle to get him to retrieve. I had two Jack Russels and they sort of would retrieve but any sign of life and they would shake. But that aside you will probably get him to work more for flushing game / rabbits etc so no real reason why he shouldn't come along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 They certainly are not natural retrievers and are very hard mouthed, so I wouldn't be too hopeful about that. I think you may have to settle for a good field companion who will enjoy being out and someone to talk to when it gets a bit quiet. There is nothing wrong with that. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Your quite correct ! Being dyslexic i do struggle at times though So is it a case of he will only ever be a ratting dog ? Even if he makes a shooting companian i will be very happy ! Didn't mean to sound partonising, just wasn't sure if he was a breed I hadn't heard of :unsure: Anyway, I don't have any experience of these dogs from a personal ownership point of view but I do know that many types of terrier frequent the beating line so I don't think your wish for a shooting companion is out of the question. He'll be a pretty tough little character and like any dog will benefit from a good amount to exercise to keep him calm when you want him to be (that's the theory anyway He's still young so the tazzy devil streak isn't a surprise. NTTF would be the man to ask as to how you would go about training him to retrieve; there is nothing to stop you trying him with dummies to see how he responds but don't get into tug of war games with him or chase him around if he won't bring the dummy back to you. I'm sure you could get him working for you in some capacity and you don't seem to be asking for too much from him, just a bit of enjoyment for both you and him? Good luck with him, be patient and bond with him and as Tarlair says he'll be your buddy for a long time. WGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Many thanks guys. So how would you recomend i get him used to gun shots etc ? I have at my disposal a 9mm blank firer, as i wouldnt in early days have live ammo round a un-trained dog . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Many thanks guys. So how would you recomend i get him used to gun shots etc ? I have at my disposal a 9mm blank firer, as i wouldnt in early days have live ammo round a un-trained dog . Check out the Pinned topic by NTTF in the Dogs & Dog Training section of the forum "Introducing your dog to gunfire". WGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in North Lincs. Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 IMO it would never make a peg / retireving dog........Its a terrier... and it is just unnatural for them behave like a retriever .......like anything...with enough training you could probably get to walk on its back legs and smoke a pipe, but why would you want to? It would work sure enough...bushing and marking and ratting which is what most terriers were bred for and will do instinctively........what you indend...I wish you well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 My Cody dog is a Jack Russel cross.......no I will not tell you what he is crossed with as you will all laugh........ he is tough as nails and figures he is a 200 pound rottie. I use him for brushing rabbits and pheasants and he is a great little retriever. I have worked Cairn Terriers, Boarder Terriers, and Jack russels in the field with the hounds and they are all fabulous little dogs. As for the retrieving ....if he will play ball chances are he will bring in pheasants and bunnies. Mind you they do like to give them a shake I also use him on the long net. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 (edited) NTTF Is he crossed with a Papillion by any chance?? Excellent post and great encouragement for SS. WGD Edited February 1, 2008 by wgd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 NTTF Is he crossed with a Papillion by any chance?? Excellent post and great encouragement for SS. WGD wgd, I am very impressed yes he is NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 NTTF Is he crossed with a Papillion by any chance?? Excellent post and great encouragement for SS. WGD wgd, I am very impressed yes he is NTTF Wahey!!! I'll give myself 10/10 and another glass of red as a reward. Dog looks a great little chap. Cheers WGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted February 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) Okay so saturday was my fist attempt at intoducing the little fellow (Bryn) to a dummy that i plan to teach him with ! He already fetches a ball when i throw it a god 30yrds so if he can do it with a ball and then a dummy hopfully a pigeon or rabbit will follow ! ! ! ! Any way this is the litle chap with his new dummy / toy . Edited February 5, 2008 by salop sniper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted February 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 And within a few throws of the dummy he was picking it up and bringing it straight back for his reward ! he really enjoyed himself and his happyness of learning this new trick was all over his face . . . . . . . . . . esp when at 9pm that night he was still bringing toys and droppping them at my feet for a reward ! Here`s bryn back within a few feet of me having made a fetch . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in North Lincs. Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 thats good news :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 thats good but as NTTF says where it all goes a bit wrong is once you try something thats been alive as they start to shake, I had my Jack Russels retrieving anything but game I had to stop them as they would just get hold of and shake but on the other side of the coin thats what they are meant to do with rats etc so you can't completely blame them. Good luck though certainly seems to have taken to the dummy well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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