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Cheers Yellow Bear, that sounds like a much easier way to do it than I had in mind! Will let you know how I get on! gb

try: http://www.bobparratt.co.uk/ relatively inexpensive. gb

"Be a good dog and take it to that nice man over there at peg 3"

Whilst not a gun case I am sure that it is the same process and any hints and tips would apply equally. I am looking at fitting out a wooden case to hold my wall thickness gauge and wanted to line it with baize. Does anyone have any do's and dont's or advice on how to go about this? What sort of glue should I use etc.. All advice greatly appreciated. gb

No, i'm afraid not. Now Sold. Thank-you for all of the interest. gb

Hi C-B, No, Original barrels in original proof and no pitting at all. I didn't get to Holts last week but from the pictures the chequering looked pretty worn in the one they had for sale. Its part of my "rolling" collection and if I sell it for £3k I won't be out of pocket and someone else can enjoy it at a (relativley) affordable price. gb

J. Rigby and Co, Sidelock Ejector. Built circa 1890. Stock: Straight hand, 14 3/4“ LOP, beautifully figured with a silvers type recoil pad. No cracks historic or current, chequering crisp and clean. Action: Dipped edge lockplates profusely fine scroll engraved. Rigby patent third bite. Ejector. Barrels 30†choked approx 5 thou and 16 thou, Bores, 733 and 735, walls 25+ thou and 26+ thou. No dents or bulges. Good Blacking. Engraving on rib crisp. In a fitted leather case with some cleaning accessories, snap caps and oil bottle. Photos here: http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...c=73526&hl= I am looking for £3000 but would consider serious offers close to this. Happy Christmas, gb

You were pretty much bang on with your estimate, Gun no. 127591 was manufactured in approximately 1956. Gb

Palombier, I stand corrected and bow to your superior knowledge. Gb

Whilst not illegal they are Section 5 Prohibited Weapons. They cannot be purchased with just a basic Section 1 Firearms license or Section 2 Shotgun Certificate. Seeing as the Police description of this type of weapon reads thus: "there are many types of firearms, especially those designed for military use, that have no place in the sporting field or hobby of shooting and others, for instance some hand guns, which have been brought into the prohibited category by Acts of Parliament." I would expect it to be Very hard to justify a Section 5 Firearms license. That said, exporting to Holland may be a completely different issue. Best of luck, Gb

I will look it up for you over the weekend. No, .729 is the internal bore dimension (in inches) when it was originally proofed. If it is now greater than 10 thousandths of an inch bigger than this then it will need to be re-proofed if you decide to sell. Gb

What is the serial number? I will look it up for you.

I just find it amazing that quality like this could be built over 100 years ago and still be in great condition today. Old guns never cease to amaze me. Gb p.s. it may be for sale soon, PM me if you are interested.

Thank-you you all for the advice. Work is in progress and I will show you the finished result! gb

No......not yet......... on the look-out though!

and you don't get engraving like this on a £900 Beretta!! gb

the stock is in pretty good condition and has recently been extended. it got wet the other day whilst shooting and the (gunsmith applied) oiled finish has worn off. I suspect that this was not particularly well done and only had one or two coats. the grain has come up again on the extension too. I think sanding down, sealing, then thoroughly oil finishing the stock should result in a better finish. gb

Mid price will alter depending on the gun. For English Side by Sides I would have thought mid price would be: Boxlocks: £500-£1500. Sidelocks: £1500-£3000 gb

Hello All, I have got all the bits and pieces ready to refinish the stock on my gun but have come unstuck at Point 1. in my instruction booklet. What should I use to strip the existing (oil) finish off the gun before starting from scratch? Many thanks gb

Matt, All I can tell you is that there was a Frederick William Williams registered at 49/50 Weaman Street, Birmingham from 1881-1886, then he was at 32/33 Weaman St from 1890-1913. This company continued trading under various names but unknown addresses until about 1947. There was also a Frederick Williams trading from 47 ½ Whittal St from1873-1876, then 34 Bath St around 1878, then 33/34 Bath St around 1883 and then 34 Bath St around 1886. If the address on the rib matches any of these addresses than this would be your best indication of age. I can find no record of their serial numbers. Hope this helps, George

Well, the main appeal to me is that they are all unique. It is unlikely that you will come across two identical Side by sides in any shooting outing even if they are all mechanically very similar (i.e. A&D boxlocks) each gunmaker will have engraved and finished the gun in their unique fashion. Then there is also the History and innovation that can be researched (yes, geeky I know!) that makes them a talking point. I think they are probably harder to shoot that modern Over and Unders. This, I suspect, is probably down to fit. Most O/Us are a pretty good fit off the peg and require very little modification. Old side by sides however have been altered and changed over generations of use and often have very short stocks. I can see no reason why, with a little bit of commitment in time and providing that it fits well, that a SxS will not break as many clays or shoot as many pigeons as an O/U. It may be a little harder to get used to, to begin with, but we’re all up for a challenge aren’t we….. Gb p.s. still not missing my beretta……..yet……..

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Being out of proof does not mean that it will require sleeving or any other form of barrel replacement. If there is sufficient thickness in the barrel walls then there should be no reason why it cannot be merely re-proofed. It may require some work before it goes to the proof house such as removal of dents and tightening of the action. You will need to have it thoroughly checked over before you decide what route to go down. A Greener SxS non ejector will never be a particularly valuable gun (i have one too, and it started life as a 13b) even after all of the work has been carried out. I would suggest you get the gun into a safe and legal state, e.g. re-proofed, and forget about the aesthetic works such as re-blueing for the minute. Once you have used it for a while and decided that you do/do not like shooting it you can than decide whether to go the whole hog and spend the extra money getting it looking really good. gb

Brown Leather Cartridge Bag for sale. Similar to the "stormforce" one on the UKShootWarehouse website and may even have come from there a few years ago. Good overall condition, a few scuffs but nothing serious. £40 posted. gb

Have you got any more photos, they dont look like any partridge i've ever shot. That said, they could be young english partridge? gb