Vince Green

My firewall wouldn't let me access that site saying its dodgy

There doesn't have to be a dictator, sometimes its the project Wasn't it Gerbachev who said something along the lines of "Its strange, just as we are trying to break up the Soviet System in Russia, Europe is trying to invent it"?

Lack of accountability

Thats always been true. HAIs have killed millions

This data refers to the second wave in January this year, no problems with PPE then and probably no blame attached to the Government for these deaths More a lack of proper infection control on the part of the hospitals. The report quotes examples of covid and non covid patients being treated on the same ward. You don't need to be medically qualified to know thats not right There does need to be an enquiry, the NHS has been a bit smug through out this pandemic with everybody clapping and putting rainbows in their windows. Now it turns out they may be responsible for thousands of un necessary deaths through poor practices

Exclusive: More than a fifth of Covid deaths at some hospitals after patients caught virus on wards At the height of the second wave in January more than 3,000 patients a week were catching the virus in hospital ByInvestigations Team31 March 2021 • 9:31pm More than a fifth of the Covid deaths at some hospitals occurred after patients caught infections on wards, The Telegraph can disclose. Freedom of Information requests to hospital trusts around the country found that 3,264 people who caught Covid in hospital have died since March last year, with nine organisations recording that more than 100 patients had lost their lives after contracting the virus in their care. Bereaved families said that the number of people who died as a result of catching the virus when they were being treated for other illnesses must be part of any future inquiry into the handling of the pandemic. The disclosure is likely to raise questions about whether infection control measures are adequate. On Wednesday night, Barbara Keeley MP, member of the Health and Social Care Select Committee, said that it was “unacceptable” that so many people had died after catching the deadly virus in hospital. “Every Covid-19 death is a tragedy, and it is unacceptable that more than 3,000 people have now died from Covid-19 infections they acquired in hospital," she said. The figures obtained under the Freedom of Information Act include patient deaths among both “probable” cases – those who first tested positive for the virus between eight and 14 days after they were admitted to hospital – and “definite” cases – those with a positive test 15 days or more after admission. At Gloucestershire Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust, 128 patients who were suspected to or definitely caught Covid while in hospital died – equivalent to 24 per cent of the total Covid deaths at the Trust. It was followed by Northumbria Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust and Warrington and Halton Hospitals NHS Trust, where coronavirus infections caught in hospital accounted for 21 and 20 per cent of the organisations’ respective Covid deaths. University Hospitals of Leicester NHS Trust reported the highest number of deaths. Since the beginning of the pandemic, 222 patients – both probable and definite cases – have died with Covid after catching the virus in hospital. A spokesperson for the Trust said that community transmission levels in their area had been “consistently higher” than the national average throughout the pandemic and infections were known to increase in line with this. They said that patient and staff safety was a “top priority” during the pandemic. Less than half of NHS trusts responded so the true number of patients who died after catching Covid at the country’s hospitals could be much higher. Official figures show that more than 40,000 patients caught Covid, or were suspected to, while in hospital being treated for other conditions. At the height of the second wave in January more than 3,000 patients a week were catching the virus in hospital. The latest figures show this has dropped to just over 200 patients a week. An NHS England spokesperson said that “hospitals implement robust infection control measures in line with the guidance from Public Health England and other UK-wide guidance”. 'We thought he was safe, and he just wasn’t': Families reveal 'inadequate' infection controls Matt Pears (R), who passed away after catching Covid in hospital, with his family CREDIT: Pears family When Matt Pears was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin Lymphoma, his family felt hopeful that he would recover. Only in his late 40s, Mr Pears had been in good health before discovering he had cancer and the prognosis seemed to be good. But after he was admitted as an inpatient for intensive chemotherapy in the spring, his family became concerned. A potentially deadly virus was sweeping the country and they feared he might be vulnerable. In April, the family were told that Mr Pears had caught Covid-19 and by the middle of May, he had died. “Obviously he was terrified, he was very frightened and he was very angry”, said Mrs Edmunds, Mr Pears's sister. “We thought he was in the best place, we thought he was safe, and he just wasn’t.” Looking back, his sister said that whilst the family are full of praise for the medical staff who treated Mr Pears, they also feel “angry” that he caught the virus in hospital. Mr Pears was treated at the Royal Derby Hospital and whilst he was there, both he and his family had concerns, believing that infection control measures were “inadequate”. “The PPE was a huge issue”, said Mrs Edmunds. “I remember my brother saying to me on the phone: 'people are coming out onto his ward, without PPE'. They were coming from other wards as well and coming to see him.” Mrs Edmunds said that she felt the Government had “let down” people who went into hospital for other illnesses and then caught Covid-19. It is a distressing story, but not unfamiliar. An investigation by The Telegraph has found that more than 3,000 people have died after catching coronavirus in hospital when they were being treated for other conditions. Official figures show there have been more than 40,600 patients who caught Covid while in hospital being treated for an unrelated illness, but this data has only been published since August and does not include the number of patients who subsequently died. An NHS respiratory consultant who wished to remain anonymous said he had seen vulnerable respiratory patients mistakenly being put on Covid wards because their symptoms were similar to Covid, and later dying after catching the virus. “When these patients died it was especially distressing as we knew their infection was acquired in hospital,” he said. “I kept a record at first, and I got to around 15 patients who this happened to at the Trust where I was working during the first wave of the pandemic.” A number of trusts said in their FOI responses that they could not be certain Covid was the cause of death. Elaine Williams-Bird lost her brother, Ian Williams, last October after he caught Covid on the respiratory ward of Doncaster Royal Infirmary while being treated for pneumonia. The 56-year-old, who had a long-term respiratory condition, was admitted on Sept 23 and put on a respiratory ward which his family feared was “fast becoming a Covid ward”. They were told he had Covid two days before he died. Ian Williams caught coronavirus in October on the respiratory ward of Doncaster Royal Infirmary During the first wave of the pandemic and during the national lockdown, Mr Williams’s daughter, who lived with and cared for him, was scrupulous about following the regulations and took every precaution to protect her father from Covid. Ms Williams-Bird said that she “finds it hard to bear that Ian contracted Covid when he was in hospital”. “We will never know how much more time he might have had.” In a letter to Ms Williams-Bird the hospital said that the number of Covid patients being admitted meant there was a “tipping point” when the respiratory ward Mr Williams was placed in became a designated Covid ward. The remaining patients who didn’t have the virus were moved elsewhere. All the hospitals said they had followed national infection control guidance. Dr Magnus Harrison, executive medical director at University Hospitals of Derby and Burton, said that their “staff strictly follow Public Health England guidance on PPE and infection prevention and control measures”. Dr Ken Agwuh, director of Infection, Prevention and Control and Consultant Microbiologist at Doncaster and Bassetlaw Teaching Hospitals, said: “While Covid and non-Covid patients may be cared for within the same area they are never nursed in the same enclosed bays and – throughout the pandemic – we have followed national guidance to ensure we deliver care as safely as possible.” Email your hospital experiences to covidstories@telegraph.co.uk

The old poisons for rats rendered them odourless after death, either because it contained phosphorus which consumed the body, my dad used to tell the story of lifting a floor board in an old house and finding hundreds of rat tails with no bodies The other one was arsenic which effectively embalmed them and left them to dry out and be mummified. The arsenic also killed the bacteria that caused them to rot Rats will eat other dead rats so arsenic could kill rats two or three times over . The gift that kept on giving but we are not allowed to use them anymore

Its a very similar story with the agricultural subsidy, a simple cash backhander to French farmers in 1965. Its been there so long we don't even question why its paid but today ir represents over a third of the EU's entire budget The CAP is often explained as the result of a political compromise between France and Germany: German industry would have access to the French market; in exchange, Germany would help pay for France's farmers.[25]

I see Germany is knocking the Oxford vaccine again this morning COVID-19: Germany to suspend Oxford-AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine for under-60s | World News | Sky News

The origins of the EU was born out of the situation at the end of WW2. OK the baby took a long time to grow into what it is now but its roots can't be forgotten.

Once anyone applies for asylum they have to, by law, get housed, given benefits (actually more than a UK citizen would get because its worked out a different way) for the duration of their application. Because our system is so inefficient the process can take years. With appeals it can be strung out for a very long time. Thats the law, nobody has any say or discretion about whether it happens or not

Yes in Poland I would imagine it is much safer, but it wasn't always

Coolant?

The banks of Loch Lomond get absolutely trashed every year

The trouble with low turnouts is that it gives the looney left a chance to take advantage of their postal voting scams and vote one of their cronies into the job

Yes but its not just big cats these people want to keep. I can "almost" see the appeal of a big cat if it is something you can interact with. I think Ross Kemp's programme will depict some of the owners as treating their pets as overgrown moggies. Stroking them and playing with them. If you like that sort of thing? What I fail to understand are people who want to illegally keep highly venomous snakes or crocodiles. Creatures with no interaction or personality about them what so ever. What would you get back in return ? Spiders even less so for me

Ross Kemp is doing a couple of programmes for ITV about people that keep bigs cats in their back gardens. I'm surprised its still legal but it is. They say about 250 are kept legally but the number kept illegally is thought to be much higher. The commonest species kept illegally is the North American Puma. Which coincidentally is also what is most often sighted in the wild. They breed easily in captivity and sell on the black market for a lot of money I would imagine Britain’s Tiger Kings – On the Trail with Ross Kemp airs on Tuesday 30th March at 9pm on ITV.

My friend owned a place in Spain for many years and I can remember him saying years ago it was really complicated, you have to tick a lot of boxes because their local government was a bureaucratic nightmare. Its Feudal, you have to pay money to the mayor, money here money there to different local busybodies. My guess is a lot of people didn't appreciate the twists and turns or didn't take it seriously. Or, more likely perhaps, they bought through sharky estate agents who told them nobody bothers with all that stuff

They already were before all this, but yes you are right. Its going to have a massive effect

Stick to the agreement as it was laid out. That is what we are doing with all the EU citizens that are here. However a lot have been forced to return to their home countries as their work here has dried up because of covid. There is a bigger difference, a lot of the British Ex Pats are retired and living on pensions, plus they own the property they live in over there. The EU Nationals that live here are much younger, working and sending or taking their wages out of the country. Flippin' thousands, but not from the EU. Blair/ Brown allowed elderly dependents of people already here a right of entry into UK

When the Equality Act came in 2010 somebody made a comment that it wouldn't raise women's wages it would only lower men's. I can see little reason to believe that prophesy wasn't correct.

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While there is so much money changing hands for puppies all manner of things are going to happen.

Its not just Norfolk, any rural area would be the same, they say it about the Cornish too

There is a lot of inbreeding goes on in the human population too. Here in Cornwall the local population is known as "the inbreds" with some justification but lets not go there because thats not my problem and I dont want to engage with the issues 2 i