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I only wish I had half the hair it came up with for me

Perfectly legit Millomite! Legit maybe, but speaking as someone who spent a month in hospital, weeks in a wheelchair and then crutches, and years of pain after a taxi-driver 'didn't see me', I wonder if it's advisable to wear cammo on a bike? The coppers may not have seen you come to think of it, "ere, sarge, look, there's a pushbike pedalling itself down the road"

It's modern day perceptions that are wrong, even though you are going about a legal pastime in a sensible manner you feel judged by society. :< But apart from us being in the right or the wrong, you have to think of others that are in the wrong, by which I mean the anti blood sport and animal rights terrorists. You may be a handy lad, but attract the wrong attention, say from some 17-18 year old soap dodging hippy lass, then what? The tactics they use are to target property and family, and this is something you can't fight. I think this is one of the reasons we have to be less obvious about what we are doing. It's not right, and the police don't have the man-power or resources to protect our right to carry out our chosen sport so we have to watch who's watching us

My local is more interested in the fishing stuff, friendly enough if you ask but as far as diving bottles go forget it. There was a guy who bought his own compressor as he was really into paintball that was local for me, but I tend to stick with rimfires now. Apart from him it was a 20 mile hike!

Well worth watching A friend of mine used to use Harris Hawks, and he knew someone who flew a Golden too, he has some film of it hunting, would be really good to see what it looked like swooping on a fox or rabbit with that camera on

Thought I'd found a football free zone That's it, I'm handing my guns in and taking up knitting Liked that though Millomite

Many offences commited with firearms (and the law regards anything from a 'bb' gun to a howitzer, de-acts and replicas as being covered here[table legs in carrier bags aren't technically covered, but don't walk back from the pub with one, just in case]) are known as 'absolute offences', ie; you are guilty till proven innocent, and ignorance is no defence. If your airgun is tested, and is found to be over the limit, you are guilty of possesing a section one firearm without a certificate. An airpistol over the limit would be classed as section five, along with sub-machine guns, non 22rf cal semi-autos and fully automatic weopons, you would be a menace to society and the judge would be forced to lock you up for 5 years. You evil man. And don't even think of trying to do anything with that Brocock you just found at the bottom of your gunbox, that you forgot you had. What was this thread about? Ah, yes. Lead. But I don't think I will be shooting at big birds that honk and quack with a shotgun just in case.

http://www.test-your-diving-cylinders.co.uk/ a new idea? Seen it in Gun Mart. Very interesting article. But £20-25 + any extras to test a cylinder which you may not get back if it fails can seem a lot. I know you would not want it back if it did fail, the point was that since re-conditioned cylinders can be bought for £50-60 for the smaller ones, why bother testing it? And you also need to remember that not everyone has convenient testing or charging facilities. I used to have to travel 20 miles to the nearest one to me and was made to feel as welcome as herpes, since I was not a diver. Strange attitude really, as a, money is money and b, airgunners never bring an empty tank in to fill so it's less work for the same money.

I bought a bottle from one of the companies that do reconditioned bottles a few years ago. It said they had a 5 year test, which was correct. Thing was, the test had been done 10 months before I bought it, so check the date on the bottle when you get it, 4 years and 2 months just flies by Also, I'm curious to know what other people do with their bottles when the test expires. A couple of people I have talked to have said the full test was expensive, and there was no guarantee the bottle would survive, so it was just money down the drain to take it for a test. One of them had just took the old bottle down the scrappies (after making sure it could not be used again) and bought another.

I await the answer on that one, but talking of Canadians, there was a good link on the Jackson Rifles web site about Canadian snipers in Afganistan, using rifles chambered in .50bmg One of them took a at 1400yards, or meters, can't remember which, but if they have that sort of shooting ability then they can eat what grass they want, I aint messing

Can't comment on how good the Premiers are now, but they used to be the best thing since sliced bread..........and the other two are good choices too, if your rifle likes them. I will fly in the face of fashion here, but Eley Wasps are still good too, despite being an old design. I think they must keep their dies in really good condition. Roundhead pellets are just about the best choice for hunting, they retain their energy longer than a flat head and at 12ftlbs hollow points don't expand much. The only hollow point I have ever used that was of any use was the H&N, but not many places seem to stock them. At closer ranges they do have their uses. Pointed pellets are seldom that good, if the point is slightly out of center the pellet will not fly true, and some even have a small 'nipple' of lead on the point itself, which can't help. Some of the newer, semi-pointed ones are good though, and though it's a bit on the heavy side for a spring gun the Barracuda/Magnum shape obviously works well. The Barracuda was originally designed as a spring gun pellet, Weihrauch were doing some experiments into upping the power of the HW35, and needed a heavy pellet design to withstand the blast. The test gun actually had a cylinder on the side which contained another gas which was injected into the chamber to cause or help dieselling.....never caught on though, can't think why

I sit corrected :*) , if I were to get a hankering after goose or duck then I would have checked up first, but I was under the impression that the likes of canada geese on farmland could be controlled with lead. I thought it was just wetland, because of falling shot landing in the water and the birds injesting it. Even at my age I can still learn a thing or two. Still, I don't have to do it on my shoot thankfully, but what is the reason they can't be taken with lead shot over farmland? That would be the only time I would have to shoot geese, as cattle are grazed on my shoot and they won't eat grass that geese have been on, due to their droppings. Why cattle turn their noses up at goose she-ite when you see the mess they make is beyond me though.

Know what you mean about space in the car park, our place has this brilliant shift pattern where 2000 lateshift workers have to get into the car park and find a space while 2000 dayshift workers are trying to get out!

Is game and wildfowl being mixed up here? Lead shot is still legal on both, it is where it is used, usually over wetlands or SSIs that lead shot is banned. And I know a young lad of 16, who, knowing no better at the time, was sat in his garden, in a town garden at that, shooting targets with his Crosman 766. He had been shooting for sometime, his trusty retriever cat sat by his side, just in case a sparrow should drop out one of the trees in the garden. Suddenly, the cat did that slinky walk thing they do when they've seen something, and covered the 20 yards over the lawn to the vegetable patch in 10 seconds flat, only to come scuttling back at twice the speed with her ears flat against her head and hid in the house. The very next thing, a big cock pheasant came strutting out onto the garden path! Despite all the noise of pumping-up loading and shooting, that bird had been sat with the rest off the veggies the whole time. The story goes that he fell with one Eley Wasp in the head, and was had for x-mas dinner a few days later! So, it is obvious that with a well placed shot, pheasant can be taken with airrifles. I would guess that 766 was making about 9.5-10 ftlbs at the muzzle, and it was a 20 yard shot, so if you have a game licence, it's not Sunday or xmas day and all the other legal bits are addressed, go get your bird

Off on the sick till next week Can't drive or ride my bike

I sure was :*)

Normally about £20, the shorter the barrel the more it costs Not taking the pixx here, just an observation on prices.

They look like Paragons, I bought some of those to try in my .22 FX200. The results were comical, through the scope you could watch them corkscrew all the way to the target. It was so much fun I started shooting at the 60 yard target just to watch them, it was unbelievable. They looked as if they were spiralling down an invisible funnel Yet the same pellets worked well in one of my Vulcan carbines and an ancient Meteor I had different results with some of the self assembly ones they were doing, another Vulcan carbine loved them but nothing else did. But one day, lead may be banned, so someone had better come up with one that works, or we'll all be shooting blanks

Our parrot has gone into shock!

The .22 vs .177 debate has raged for about 100 years now, the only thing that has been agreed on seems to be '.22 for fur, .177 for feather'. But you could always get a .20. Can of worms alert........can of worms alert...............can of worms alert..............

Another thing to bear in mind, quite apart from the Sunday and game laws, is that to shoot anything you have to have the permission of the land owner first. This is even more important if you apply for your FAC, as it will be on the certificate what you are allowed to shoot. The land you shoot on may have a syndicate who have paid to rear and shoot pheasants, and they never seem to like us taking 'their' birds. But, if you had a game licence and the landowners permission, and it's in season, then it is legal to shoot a pheasant with an airgun.

Hello Snakebite, the two pellets you are using will give totally different results, the Bisley is quite a heavy weight amongst pellets, and the Webley is more of an average weight, which will mean both pellets have a different trajectory. That is fine if you get good groups with both and can remember the different trajectories. You don't say what rifle you are using, but generally speaking, pneumatics prefer heavier pellets and piston guns prefer the lighter ones. That does not mean one will perform badly in the other though, every gun has it's favourite pellet. If you want a good pellet that performs well and is well made, Eley wasps are a good choice, they come in two sizes for English and Continental size barrels, and since Eley started making them they must have accounted for millions of small game and pests over the years. And they don't cost the earth for a tin of 500. I have always found pointed pellets to have inconsistant points on them, and when I tried Bisley Pest Control (in 177), I had to throw a large number away in the tin as the cup was unevenly formed. Both of these will affect accuracy.

I have a 4x32 Mldot from Walther and have been impressed, bought it from The Optics Wharehouse, came with free mounts and Butler Creek covers http://www.opticswarehouse.com/acatalog/co...pic_Sights.html but he doesn't seem to have the model you are looking for .

http://gprime.net/game.php/duckhunt It all started when I put the curser on the blue.........

Best wishes and happy hunting to all of you