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wymberley

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  1. No problem. Many years ago an empirical 'formula' was devised in an attempt to prevent people 'overgunning themselves' shall we say. Let me say straight off that it is purely based on muzzle energy: fiddle factors for the so called "perceived" or "felt" recoil were not possible as the potential variations in this are directly proportional on a one to one basis to the number of shooters. Consequently it is broad brush in nature but did work and work well and still does with due consideration. As we know, the effective range of a gun when comparing different bores but firing similar shot sizes is purely dependent upon the number of pellets because the pellets from a .410 travel at the same speed as those from a 12 bore. Therefore, as the velocity is constant, the only change to muzzle energy and thus recoil must be a function of the weight of the load. It was ruled based on experience that for the average Joe Bloggs that he would be able to comfortably shoot a cartridge if the gun weighed 96 times the weight of the load. It must be stressed that the figure of 96 would have been based on a MV of c1100ishft/secabout and therefore allowances must be made for differing speeds. I would just like to say that I agree entirely with aldivalloch's final sentence in the previous (#17) post. Our biggest problem, however, has been a reluctance to question those theories which are, and can be shown to be, wrong. This is NOT a criticism for we owe a great debt of gratitude to what has been achieved with the technology available but similarly we should not be afraid of adopting what our current technology offers us.
  2. Well, that's a bit rich. You were the one that said it wasn't that simple and then proceeded to give an eight paragraph answer in which the only reference to choke - the only thrust of the OP's question - involved a brief reference to steel. Let's have a look at your longest and most detailed paragraph. If words were allocated the same level of age as objects in order to qualify as antiques, then the 96 to 1 meets that requirement with decades to spare (OK I exaggerate a little). This originated when shot trundled down the barrel at about 1200ft/sec, but you may not have noticed that this is now anything up to 1450 or more (often to the detriment of pattern density/quality). A quick calculation reflects that if the original 96:1 is deemed acceptable, then, now, c125:1 is more appropriate. This is probably why in this modern era, the (somewhat heavier than the older lightweight sby)s OU guns reign supreme. As has been shown, some are aware of this and have added sensibly to the discussion. Reading and then forgetting to cater for progress could, apart from premature and unnecessary shoulder damage, adversely affect a shooter's performance and thus, possibly, pleasure if he/she were to adopt this outdated empirical formula. Consequently, in addition to your valid point about loads weights, a suggestion to look carefully at the observed velocity of the cartridge would have been equally advantageous. As said, it really is that simple.
  3. Yep, that wouldn't be a bad idea. After all, he who reads forgets, he who sees remembers but he who does knows and you seem to be still in the former stage quoting from something written for young sportsmen in the 1950s.
  4. From the above, I have to agree with Ed. Having said that, having also seen your later post regarding the chokes in use at the moment coupled to the above mentioned (but undefined) longer distances, you may just be asking too much. I'd leave well alone for now until you take up one of the offers in other posts. A good coach will be able to see you 'hitting' the target even though you think you 'missed' it because the clay didn't break. Only then under those conditions would you need to tighten things up a tad. As Yellow Bear has said about members agreeing, I don't think that too many would disagree with BASC who considers that the pattern plate has, and continues, to prove its worth.
  5. Yes it is. The guy asked a perfectly sensible and straightforward question on choke: Not for a thesis on the development and use of the modern shotgun!
  6. Perusal of the figures will reflect that one step up in terms of performance (which is what choke is) as opposed to dimensions (which is what choke isn't) gains very little in pattern density - it won't even give you an extra pellet per pigeon in the usual decoying situation. Consequently, what you have acquired is ideal for virtually all circumstances and where this is not the case, a change of cartridge will resolve the problem. A properly conducted pattern test will ensure that your barrel/cartridge combination is delivering the performance that you want.
  7. You may just like to ask this question of a formally qualified coach when next you bump into one. I suspect the answers given previously are from clay shooters in the main. However, by the sound of it you're doing OK so don't rock the boat. It is good to hear, though, that only 1% of shooters are having any sort of marksmanship/clean kill problems even though the amount of questions in various magazines and internet forums would suggest otherwise.
  8. The direction in which this and the other associated thread are heading is such that I assume that that will be the Jules Sinclair version.
  9. You could well be right. I referred to Post # 85 of the infamous '243 and 200yd Zero' thread.
  10. Nah, - a 2" group should be do-able at 500 yards.
  11. The last time that the SNP was on a charge - 1975 - Winnie Ewing offered me a job in the Scottish Air Force and I wonder if that offer still stands.
  12. And from which the pure logic is inescapable. Brilliant!
  13. Are you sure that it's his driving that is the root problem. The need to concentrate and the possible self recognition that something unknown is not as it should be can cause some of the points that you raise: The bad temper for example, being a symptom and not a defect. Much of what you say I recognise from my late father. We were lucky in as much that when he did understand that all had not well after it was sorted, when later we said right now really is the time he realised that as previously we were right and he retired gracefully. Sorted? Tunnel vision; two nasty cataracts removed and with a new lease of life drove for a good few more years and the pigeon shooting hits to shots fired ratio went off the scale.
  14. I have a Weihrauch, just not the 22LR and the only possible improvement over this maker for a keeper is the Anschutz and, for me, the carbine thumbhole in particular. But the best rifle of all is the one that you prefer.
  15. Googling 'activesofa home page' (which for me is the first entry) once in, go for 'general board' which is in the small print above the thick blue line. At the moment WH Smith is the first unpinned thread.
  16. Being a computor dummy, I can't help but if you've nothing better to do keep trying as I thing you'll agree the guy has a point! And then some!
  17. There is a post regarding a letter that has been sent which should make somebody sit up and pay attention which you'll find in the General Board of the Activesofa forums.
  18. Just think yourselves lucky it isn't a twelve lane gallery range on top of the cliffs bordering Lyme Bay and just get on with it. Rest assured I know exactly how you feel...........x 12. PS Come to think of it, aren't you used to shovelling the odd ton or two; how often do you do the de-leading or change the sand. The damned stuff will slip so it's out with the shovel. It's worse when the sand is pulverised and is very fine at which point it's due for a change.
  19. What he said. Father had one of their 2" boxlocks, lovely thing. There was a shop a while back in the Amersham neck of the woods.
  20. On yer bike and face to face but NEVER in shooting dress (except for a BASC badge where it can be seen) or at meal times. Also try beating as an 'in'.
  21. Can't believe on one else has said owt, that really is delightful.
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