celtic invader

Hi Guys I'm looking for a secondhand Ugartechea 12 bore boxlock non ej stock, in serviceable condition or a blank that will suit. I have decided to do up my old rough shooting friend but it needs a replacement stock, in addition to all the other things that require looking at after 20 years of use and abuse. If you have anything lying around that might suit - please get in touch. Regards. Celtic Invader.

Very talented - what price for a pastel drawing.

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100g Spear soft nose boat tail with 35g Varget, 9.5 primers and Lapua brass to an OAL of 2.713 are good food for my Winchester lightweight. H380 is also a good powder for the .243. As with all loads obtained from forums - these are only what other people find acceptable in their own rifles after working up the load to find out what suits their rifle best. What other people find the best for their rifle may be too heavy for yours (or too light) and not provide you with good groups at best or blow up your rifle at worst. Always consult the bullet and/or powder data sheet - start at least 5% below minimum and work up to find the best combination, bearing in mind that changes in O.A.L. will make a difference with the same loads and so will the type/make of case you use. Experimentation is the key and always begin from a safe start point. Contrary to popular belief you do not have to max out the load to achieve consistent results.

It has to be SBS for me. I do not shoot clays as often as I used to and although I could use the wife’s O/U for pigeon I have not shot it for some years. Even my 3" magnum, used only once a year for the annual trip north on the geese, is a side lock SBS - not an English one I hasten to add, but nevertheless a very nice gun to use and to date I have had over 14 lefts & rights at geese with it so it must be right for me. I even used it at driven pheasant last season for the high birds at Beulah. (You do not feel the recoil of heavy game loads as much with a heavier gun) The main armoury for game, pigeon and wildfowl is selected from 30" Mt Stephen (Midland made for the trade), H&H 28" and AYA No2 26", dependant upon the quarry species, and of course the 30" Ibor for the geese - all SBS side locks. Even the wife is now a dedicated SBS user with her AYA 16 bore being the weapon of choice. I guess I agree with Baldrick on this one as the pleasure I get from using a well crafted thing of beauty is all part of the package - there again I use Belgian, Czechoslovakian and American rifles and not British, Austrian or German – so in the end it's all down to individual taste and budget. Bottom line is you should shoot with whatever you feel is best for you, is appropriate for the quarry species and acceptable to society and the law, and just as importantly enjoy the experience and the company and don't let peer group pressure or fashion steer you away from your personal preference.

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Probably just a Welsh thing - or is that racist?

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No its not that V-max - the stalker shoots a .243 himself, its the ballistic tips that he doesn't like due to the meat damage caused with shots in the engine room. I always head or neck mine with tips so its not normally a problem, but this guy doesn't like head or neck shots because he has had to chase all over the hill after wounded deer if the Rifle was not competent. Although I have shot with him for many years, he still insists on heart and lung with all the Rifles he takes out. He has been the stalker on this estate for many many years and will not change his mind on this. I must say I probably agree with him on this point, for when you are responsible for ensuring that the animal is taken as quickly as possible there is less room for error with a H & L shot compared to head or neck. As far as the capability of a .243 is concerned, I load from 58gr to 100gr, dependant on quarry species, and I am just as confident with big reds at 200+ as I am with Fox. A good all round calibre if you could only ever have the one.

An interesting thread and good points on all sides - but taking the stance that the "least said the soonest mended," I agree with the bias towards not showing too explicit a picture - just in case. This is not a private forum that can only be viewed by dedicated followers of field sports, therefore we must all take responsibility for how we portray ourselves in public and be careful not to provide any opportunity to those wishing to outlaw shooting as a sport. We all suffer the unwanted attentions of various so called anti-blood sport campaigners - you know the type that let loose 1,000 cuddly little mink because its cruel to keep them locked up in cages - without realising that once these little killers are set free they will systematically destroy all the wildlife they can get their little teeth into. You can't blame the mink - its in their nature, but the ******** that commit this type of wildlife crime think that they are doing the right thing. Education is the most important tool we can use against unwanted attention by 'antis' and helping them to gather gory pictures of dead wildlife by posting them on publically accessible forums like this one, will only serve to aid their campaign against us. There are too many organisations out there waiting for the opportunity to stick another nail our coffin - so why help them do it?

I load Nosler BT in 95gr for fallow locally (head and neck shots only) and highly recommend them for these shots, but when on the hill in Scotland my stalker will not allow them (he insists on H&L for all shots and BT's are too messy) so I load 100gr speer boat tails. Both are charged with varget and cci mag primers. Unfortunately, I have to re-zero between trips as they shoot 6 inches apart and although I have varied the powder weights, I cannot get them to zero the same.

There seems to be a lot of confusion around the country as to what ‘Vermin’ is and whether Fox is classed as vermin or not in certain areas. There is, and always has been, a great deal of 'Interpretation' applied to firearm licensing and conditions by various forces. Most of which has been allowed to develop unchecked either by Central Government or national groups like BASC and the Countryside Alliance. This has led to confusion over the definitions applied to many aspects of the legislation and is constantly fuelled by the varying opinions of the many Chief Constables involved. Until BASC, the CA or some other interested body with enough clout to represent the shooting community, make in-roads with ACPO to streamline and unify the legislation and conditions commonly applied to FAC's, each individual is best advised to seek confirmation (In writing) from their local FLD and/or the FLD that controls the area in which they intend to shoot. This way they will not fall foul of 'Local' interpretations. Just because one person is able to do something in one area, it does not automatically follow that you can do the same in another. As may be seen by a recent post on this forum, regarding the house move from one Police area to another by a licensed FAC holder, even trying to do things the right way and provide adequate notification, still gave rise to many complications because of varying opinions. If in doubt, check it out!

Hi 063 Most of my time at Hameln was spent away in Norway, Bavaria, and Austria - Skiing and training for the Biathlon 4div and army finals, which were held in Bavaria each Feb/March dependant upon local snow conditions. The Crooked Lantern (Sheafer Laterna) was probably the most frequented pub in Hameln at the time - seem to remember a young lady by the name of Anna Marie Englhart who stole most of the attention. As for Bridging, like all Sappers at the time I did my bit during training at Cove but the nearest I got to LFB, HFB and Bailey from that time on was driving over the things to get to the other side. I was in Berlin on business last year, you would not recognise the place now - took the train to Rostock up on the Baltic via old East Germany and not much has changed in the sticks but the main cities now look totally different. When not Skiing I used to sail the Baltic from Kiel in Avalanche - apparently she was commandeered from the German Army after the war and used by the RE's as a training sailing vessel - crewed 8/10 and was great fun for a few weeks in August - in and out of Danish ports. We used to take crates of Charlie with us, which we bought in the NAFFI for peanuts and sell it to the Danes in order to fund the extra curricular activities – the advert is very true albeit nearly 40 years behind the times. What are you doing now – besides shooting a few woodies?

65 Corps Support Hameln - 68 to 72.

Just remember all the good times and never be reluctant to speak about them with all that knew him – and to those who were unfortunate not to have known him.

The name of my third Boat - now somewhere in Ireland.

You can still get shot no matter what you are carrying! 117 posts not bad for one topic.

You do not have to state on your application at what time of day or night you will be wishing to shoot. Unless there are specific conditions to the contrary on the land in question (Very unlikely) or the farmer/Land Owner/Person who owns the sporting rights objects - which you should have been made aware of when you first discussed permission - you should have no legal problem in shooting at night for vermin. HOWEVER I would strongly recommend that you get to know the other users of the land first. This will give you an insight into shooting with more experienced rifles and from a safety point, ensure that you are all aware of each other’s movements and intentions. If you intend to shoot at night, this is probably the most dangerous of all conditions because of target identification and backstop difficulties, you would be wise to be in the company of experienced people and you do not want to 'bump' into someone with a rifle who is shooting in your direction not knowing that you are there. Trust me, Night Shooting is fraught with danger for the experienced rifle. I would not even think about it If I were you, not until you have 'Served an Apprenticeship' of a few seasons on the same land and met up with and got to know all those that already shoot there.

Angelo Good - at least you have been properly screened and your home security is up to standard, so your application for the variation should go smoothly. As previously stated fill out your variation form, state the use to which you are seeking the variation for - remember that although moderators are only tubes with baffles, they are treated as are rifles for the purpose of use and possession because of the change they make to the weapon to which they are or can be attached. You will need to provide a good reason for the use of a moderator/s - although prevention of hearing damage is a good one for Centre Fire moderators it does not always work for Rim Fires because of the much lower noise levels of the latter. A stipulation by the farmer would help, or predator control near game bird rearing, release pens, or other livestock that might be unnecessarily disturbed. Send or take your application to Bridgend and wait for the response. You might get a further visit, or you might not. Good luck. p.s. Do not loose heart if you are turned down at your first application, just keep on trying and one day you will succeed. Do not pay too much attention to any criticism you might perceive from forums like this one, all forum members are very protective over their sport and are suspicious of all newbie’s because of the tricks and bad press they get from anti's and animal rights campaigners. My personal belief is that if you are open and honest with all who enquire, you will certainly help some and you may even convert some but you will never hurt anyone.

Angelo Ok Have you acquired a .22 yet? and does it have to be kept on the club premises?

Angelo OK But you cannot purchase, possess or use expanding ammunition unless you also have the permission in the additional conditions section on page one. This you will get (probably) when you apply for your variation to use your .22 for vermin control over land for which you have permission and which has been passed for that calibre of weapon. Before we go any further, could you answer a few questions for me so that I can better understand where you are at present and what do you wish to accomplish. I am presuming that you have had your FAC grant for acquisition of a .22 and that you have already acquired the rifle. 1 Can you tell me for what use you originally applied for the weapon - was it for target use at a specific range and you are now seeking to vary this to include vermin control on a specific piece of land? 2 How long have you had the FAC? 3 What are your current Additional conditions? 4 Has the land already been approved for .22rf by SWP FLD?

Angelo No - the total amount of ammunition would not be required to change, just the fact that you wish to possess expanding ammunition is sufficient. Your FAC will be returned with the same amounts for acquisition and possession (always remember not to exceed your possession limit when you acquire) but the new heading will read 'Ammunition including expanding ammunition and expanding missiles' and in the additional conditions section on page one you will then find the permission for possession and its qualification of use.