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Well put flightline.

It figures. Pieman; thanks for the web site.

Hunt,hunt,hunt,hunt,hunt,hunt,you get the picture. :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

Would anyone be interested i loaning videos of different hunting back and forth. I would love to see videos on pigeon hunting, ferreting, lurchers, terriers or any other hunting situations. I have videos that cover moose hunting, antelope hunting, deer, bear,pedetor (mostly coyote),turkey, and dog training. Would also be interested in finding an address for shooting times as it sounds interesting. Of course this would only work if two video systems are compatable. Doe anyone know for sure.

Rjimmer; you are correct in Ontario at least during our large game seasons we are required to wear, I believe 400 sq. inches, of hunter safty orange. Since deer, moose,etc. are colour blind it is not a huge deal, since this laws conception though we have virtually eliminated all accidental shootings, ( usually caused by some well meaning townie), during are hunting seasons. The exception to this law is during the bow hunting season when we can wear full camo. The reasoning being during rifle/ shot gun you are stalking and driving, but during the archerie you do most of your hunting from stands. This law changes from province to province and from state to state. Pigeon Pieman ; thank you for blaming the correct side of the boarder. It is similar to calling a Scotsman English or an Englishman Wales or a Gentleman from Wales Irish. Before you start no offence meant to any, I'm just saying we are all proud of where we come from.

Wait till the crow is past and flying away, this way your shot passes under the feathers not through them and travels deeper to the vitals. Its a trick we use on the canada geese we get here ( we have the largest of the five sub- spicies) and as simple as it sounds it really does work. Your other option is to drop down to a number 4 shot that will stop them on the pass shot.

Buzzer I would have two agree with Rabbit Stopper, that gun was designed to handle a full 2 3/4 inch shell not the 2 1/2.

Pieman your scaring me, it looks like you just might be of class yet. :S :S :S :S :S

Any chance they could have gotten into a bunch of treated seed, and its poisoning them?

I hunt mostly upland birds, ducks, and rabbits with the dogs so my personal kennel is made up of; English Setter, Buddy 11 years old, saw twenty field days this season. Gordon Setter, Clinton 10 years old, saw forty-three field days this season. Labrador, Baron 11 years old, saw ten field days this season. Labrador, Stormer 10 years old, saw 365 couch days this season. Labrador, Kera 2 years old, saw sixty-three field days this season. English Setter, Toad 2 years old, still trying to put it all together. Springer Spaniel, Joey 4 years old, just got him 2 weeks ago, has seen five field days on rabbits this season so far. Have also owned and hunted German Shorthaired Pointers, Wiemeraners, English Pointers, Beagles, and Walker Coon Hounds. So many breeds to run so few years alotted to you.

Congadulations yp, and don't listen to them about the size of the picture I haven't even figured out how to post one yet.

Hi Jen; Just like to say welcome. Since I'm in Canada I can't help you with your question, but I'm sure the others will.

Just wondering is there any way that we could take all of our smaller organizations that represent us, and join them into an international organization. Just think of the combined knowledge, and coffers we would have to fight the anti's agenda with. Give it a thought.

Everygoodnamewastaken ; What are you planning on taking at college? I took forestry as my major with fish and wildlife as my minor.

You knew that was coming. Just didn't expect it from there.

Stop being silent, utilize the voice of every farmer, hunter, horseman, shepherd, farmers daughter and milkmaid. Let your voices be heard from the owner of the pub where you congegate before and after the hunt to the town shop owner where you buy your clothes, you are all connected, and all have something to loose. I know all about the tendancy of the townies to move into the country, putting up signs, fences and gates. I know what it is like to have to shoot beside busy roads, or close to town, and what its like to loose a good night hound to a car. However I am bred, born, and raised country as our my children. Buy standing together united their will be a country that our children can hunt in and and raise our grandchildren in. Divided we stand the chance of loosing it all.

Congradulations and I hope you start to feel better tomorrow, but not until its to late to go to work.

Here in Ontario we just had a ruling from our primeminister that it is our inherent right to hunt and fish as part of our heritage. This means that no one can ever take our right to hunt or fish, it does not however mean that the government cannot take the right to hunt individual spieces away from us. However, they must make this decision under sound wildlife management practise, or we can sue them. As a matter of fact there is a law suit against the provincial government concerning the cancellation of the spring black bear hunt in court at present. The best thing this did for us was to allow us to fight back against the anti's. If anyone interfers with you while you are legaly hunting or fishing and this can be as simple as throwing rocks at your fishing float or duck decoys we can have them arrested ,jailed, and fined. These charges can be wildlife related,tresspass related, or cruilty to animal related such as spreading tacks and broken glass under the horse and hounds. This has been our greatest step forward in a long time. I would suggest that you form a governing body of all you sporting groups no matter what the dicipline. Include everyone from the ferreter, terrier man, lurcher runner, hawker right up to the huntsman with his hounds. Stand together as one body, fight together as one body, and win together as one body. Look at having hunting classed as a right and not just a privlige, hire legal council as one group and fight back in court where you can do the most damage to the anti's agendas. P.S. sorry about the spelling

Deako; I have not used that particular model, but I can tell you when you combine the movement with a predetor call it works great. The one that has worked best for me is a decoy heart (a round motorized ball, decoy heart is a registered trade name) covered in rabbit fur. When the decoy is turned on if rolls around in a very eradic pattern simulating a wounded bunny. Coupling this with a distressed rabbit call gives you a fantastic coyote and fox setup. The only modification we made was to add a tether line to the decoy or it will eventually get to far out on you. I have also used one similar to the one you are looking at, it however was of rabbit fur. From my experience they all seem to work fine aslong as you couple the decoy with the correct call. I have a friend (yes it is possible) a couple of blocks over with about 500 sheep and usually about 20 coyotes during the march lamb season, so this year my plan is to use a piece of sheep skin soaked in some birthing fluid on a jerk cord, so it can be moved slowly, simulating a weak lamb. I will combine this with the distress call of a new born lamb. I am hoping this will be a kick *** set up, as the farmer looses about 200 lambs a season to fox and coyotes.

Everygoodnamewastaken; How's the calling coming along?

Three thoughts for you: 1 place a tape recorder about 25 feet from you outside, do this away from any buildings, now blow your call and record it. When you play it back you will know exactly how your call sounds. I've had some calls that sounded awful to myself when I was blowing then inside and outside for that matter, but when I checked them on the recording they were fine. 2 If this is a two piece call (I'm not familiar with this brand) open the call up, and using a pen mark where the read is. Now you can try to tune the call by moving the read back and forth.If this doesn't help you can always return to the factory setting at the pen mark. 3 Sometimes it helps if you shave the reed. Do this with a razor blade, but remember one stroke with the razor put it together and try the call. This is something that I find most factory duck and goose calls need. Hope this helps.

I can't complain at all (especially since she's reading over my shoulder) not only have I hung gutted boar and deer from my front porch to cool, but all of the butchering is done on the kitchen table. Not to mention the number of birds and rabbits that have been plucked and cleaned in the middle of it all.

Suttys advice about the camaflage is spot on. We hunt alot of crows over decoys, and all of our gear is camoed out including our guns. A camo sock works great if you don't want to paint out one of your guns. Two more tips to add are make sure you wear a face mask, and take the first crow you scratch and place it at the bottom of your owl decoy. This drives them nuts as they believe the owl has just killed one of theirs. Also remember not to blow three caw's in succession on your call as this will be interpited as a danger call. Crows have a very complicated language with , I think it is 14 different calls all meaning different things. If your really interested in killing crows and what to do with them afterwards check out these two web sites: www.crowbusters.com and www.predetorxtreme.com. Predetorxtreme is strictly varmit hunting, and covers crows,coyotes,fox,bobcat,gophers, guns, bullets,, and anything else to do with this great pastime. One other thing to remember is that if you are going to elevate your owl decoy on a stake keep a couple of crow decoys higher than it in the surrounding area. Another great trick is to tie a tennis ball inside 2 feet square of black cloth. Tie the ball into the centre of the cloth. Now tie approx. 30 yards of heavy fishing line around the cloth where it ties around the ball. By holding the end of the line and throwing the ball (which now looks like a wounded crow when you throw him) you can let it land in the open and jerk it around to act as a wounded crow. This works really well if you have birds holding off to the side. Good luck and have fun, I'm sure you will.

Ok I've got this HPR figured out finally,( I know daft Canadian), this is what we call a versitile hunting dog, and usually falls into one of the continental breeds. We hold trials for them over here, not what you think, the dog is judged against a set standard and either passes or fails. The standard is set by the North American Versitile Hunting Dog Assossiation www.navhda.org and are judge on natural ability, tracking, response to handler and more. Test scores are published as well as kept on record both for individual dogs and for litters. Its a great way to improve your breeding program, by using dogs that really can do what their bred for. Columbus I can finally answer your question as to why I don't use a hpr myself. In the past few years I've lost Kelsey gsp 11, Misty gsp 11, Prince gsp 10, Becky wimeranier 12, Sam eng. pointer 9, and Jill eng. pointer 10. Its just that I had other dogs of other breeds coming up. Who knows what the future holds,most of my dogs are up there again; Buddy eng. setter 11, Clinton gordon setter 10 (hunted 43 days this season) Baron lab 11, Stomer lab 10. Then my young guys Keria lab 2, Toad eng. setter 2, Joey springer 4. All the old boys still managed some short hunts this year. As for brittanys I'm not overly fond of them myself. I find they take about 2x as long to start and are very independent in the feild. I can't say that I've had a problem with them working cover though. Sutty; thanks for the tip. I have to tell you my wife is very good about my dead birds, hides, and critters in the freezer. You see she has one for her things and I have one for mine.

Columbus; I must not have been clear. What I meant to say was that at the club I have a total of 32 dogs. 19 labradors, 2 springers, 2 english pointers, 3 brittanys, 4 english setters, 2 german shorthairs. Sorry for the miss comunnication. Once again I am not familiar with hunt point retriever. Would this be what we term as a pointing labrador?