hi frank i use eley subs in .22 fedreal or hornady in.17 sako 50gr soft point in .222 and winchester 95gr silver ballistic tip in .243 B) saying about the sako rounds i took a fox and 240yds 2nd trip out with .222 and it didnt get up and thanx to wabbitbosher expert lamping had some good ones with .243 aswell