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Sorry, One is enough. I just wanted to encourage anyone thinking about it to go ahead. Love mine. Great simple and historically interesting type of gun. Can't seem to miss with mine. Good luck

I have Greener Martini Action. Love it.

Great photos there Feltwad. I'm having one of my periodic hankerings for a pedersoli sbs muzzle loader..... Just looked at my old repro powder flask and the old longings came back on me. I think I'd be a bit scared of a genuine old girl. I've read of the old barrels bursting in real old guns. I'm partial to my eyesight and fingers. I was once standing about a meter from a gun that burst. It wasn't funny.

A great tale there Bruno. Excellent luck that. It's nice when it happens. I had a stroke of luck like that when I was helping a mate with some lambing in 2016. He rents 88 acres from an old guy of 89 who has retired. I got in happily shooting jackdaws and the odd pigeon and come October last, he rang me up and said, 'Come up here and shoot some pheasants. They are all over my chicken feed.' 'How many do you want shot? says I.' 'Oh - I don't know. Half a dozen? Come every week and take some.' I went twice some weeks in the winter and had a total of 36 pheasants. My only problem is that he is very old and is trying to sell the farm. I hope he lives to a 110.

Loved this thread. Great reading. Never seen it before. I spotted a grey last week near my favourite shooting permission. I look forward to seeing more of them. Funny thing is they are easily seen in the town where I live, but I can't get at those ones. I read some great accounts of squirrel shooting in the States with a 28 gauge flintlock. Check out the links below for that. http://home.insightbb.com/~bspen/thrill.html http://home.insightbb.com/~bspen/squirrel.html My favourite shooting place.

Can you run Chairgun on Linux platforms? My windows laptop messed itself up and I couldn't restore it and I went over to Ubuntu. If it is written in Java which the link above says, it may well work for me. I used it years ago when I was concerned about a rifle I had being a bit too flat shooting. I was right. It was and I got it on a ticket quick. EDIT: I downloaded it for my android phone. Works well. This airgun calculator is pretty good too and will run on any web browser whatever operating system. This is set up for my FAC .22 http://www.shooterscalculator.com/ballistic-trajectory-chart.php?pl=%5BPreset+Name%5D&presets=&df=G1&bc=0.032&bw=16&vi=830&zr=40&sh=1.5&sa=0&ws=10&wa=90&ssb=on&cr=75&ss=5&chartColumns=Range~yd%3BElevation~in%3BElevation~MOA~FBFFF5%3BElevation~MIL%3BWindage~in%3BWindage~MOA~FBFFF5%3BWindage~MIL%3BTime~s%3BEnergy~ft.lbf%3BVel%5Bx%2By%5D~ft%2Fs&lbl=&submitst=+Create+Chart+ Scroll down for graphs etc.

I've never used those very low power .22rf rounds. I used to use Eley subsonic and they were great as long as you could cater for the curvy trajectory. They would easily group about an inch at 50 yards - they might have done better if I'd been up too shooting better.

Thanks for the info. Stonepark. Horses for courses and each man to his own really seems to cover it. I value as flat a trajectory as I can get as long as the caliber will flatten the vermin without cruel woundings and such like. I take the point about heavier impact. Personally, and this is just one man's opinion, if you are going to go for as much as 45ft/pounds, you might as well go for a .22rf and load subsonics. They will hit even harder if you need that. Having said that, there may be special circumstances I haven't thought about. I recently started using 25 ft pounds in .22 and that will kill effectively with shots to the chest - no argument, at 40 yards or thereabouts. What makes it useful in some situations is that I can use it around buildings and inside certain kinds of buildings without the risks of damage and ricocheting around inside and risk to me. Always have to be careful of course. Up until the last few weeks I used .22rf and .17hmr. The cost of the latter is mad though for young rabbits or a crow in a field. The airgun does well on cost.

Morris dancing is obviously the way forward then.

I'd have thought some decent furniture polish would do it. Lather it on, leave a bit, and wipe off again. repeat as needed. Chris - re those AA Fields - are they 5.51 or 5.52mm? They seem to come in two sizes and I don't want 500 of the wrong ones given the ones you sent work so well. Cheers Tony

I'm 66 and find it a chore to pump my Axsor up, but it is perfectly doable. I go to 200 bar and that usually takes me about 130 strokes with the pump I have. If I get out of breath, I jusst top for a spell and then go at it again. Out of about five or seven minutes of pumping, I get 35 shots at 25 ft pounds. Before I put the gun on my FAC and made the power adjustment, I used to get about 80 shots at <12 ft pounds. I didn't have to pump it that much then and I was younger If the bottle just needs testing it sound a much cheaper and more convenient way to pressurise the gun. You won't get a pump for £50 or so, but you can probably get your bottle tested and filled for about that.

The buyer won't regret it. If not used to this gun, let me save him some time. Use AA Field .22. I had some right palarver when I adjusted mine for FAC. I had previously used Crossman Accupels of which I had a lot in store, but they were suddenly inaccurate at high power. BRNO.22rf sorted me out with some AA fields and they work brilliantly. All on a sixpence. Happy days

Just a comment on the frying pan -I've been de-breasting pigeon for a good while when I shot the odd one, but last time, I put the bird in a plastic shopping bag and plucked, beheaded and de-legged it inside the bag - oh - and gutted it. This took only a couple of minutes tops and I had a nice whole bird and all of the rubbish was easily tied up and thrown in the bin. Now the bit I wanted to get to.... I made a home made quick stuffing with some fried onions (two small ones about the size of a billiard ball, and I squidged these into some wholemeal bread, just crumbling and squashing the whole mass together - oil from the pan, onion and bread and I also liberally sprinkled black pepper onto it and mixed it in. I stuffed the bird with this and roasted the bird, wrapped in foil in an oven at 180c for twenty minutes. It was absolutely stunningly good. One of the best game meals I have had in ages. I'll never just de-breast a pigeon again.

Sorry - I forgot I'd already responded to the post weeks ago. Edited and deleted content

If you didn't make it yourself and fasten the end plug in place with a self tapper... It ain't gonna let go. The video I watched was astoundingly stupid. The fools who had altered a Crossman 2240 co2 rifle ACTUALLY try to blame the makers when one of them had his thigh shot right through by the exploding gun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1hrms0i2LU

Sometimes when I mount my air rifle I think about that when I put my face down on the stock immediately behind the pressure chamber.... If that end plug ever let go, it would make a nice hole in my head. Of course it won't, but I did see a youtube video made by someone who had adapted a CO2 gun to become a very bad PCP one. It had only one screw holding the breech plug in and this let go and the plug was driven right through his thigh and embedded itself in a wall. Some people have no common sense.

I'm interested in why you are going for a .25 Whitebridges. Having had .22 FAC for years on my ticket and not filled it, I recently uprated my old Webley Axsor to 25ft pounds for work around buildings. All it took was a replacement hammer spring. What a useful power level it is, and a much flatter shooter. Look over this chart and see the retained power and velocity at 40 and 50 yards. The calculator is set up for AA Fields, 16gn. At 40 yds it has 18 ft pounds and 704 fps. It is almost flat shooting from 10 to 40 yards. Scroll down the page to see the table of velocities, impact power and trajectory. http://www.shooterscalculator.com/ballistic-trajectory-chart.php?pl=%5BPreset+Name%5D&presets=&df=G1&bc=0.032&bw=16&vi=830&zr=40&sh=1.5&sa=0&ws=10&wa=90&ssb=on&cr=75&ss=5&chartColumns=Range~yd%3BElevation~in%3BElevation~MOA~FBFFF5%3BElevation~MIL%3BWindage~in%3BWindage~MOA~FBFFF5%3BWindage~MIL%3BTime~s%3BEnergy~ft.lbf%3BVel%5Bx%2By%5D~ft%2Fs&lbl=&submitst=+Create+Chart+

Went around to a mates place in the Tyne Valley and there were numbers of young rabbits. Shot four mature ones with the FAC axsor. Nice healthy animals with good muscle and perfect livers. I must have seen about twenty odd young ones. I like to leave them to get big enough for eating.

Yes I thought that plywood was a good idea. I like the way it gives such a graphical demo of the trajectory. My problem is that shooting with the air rife, 22LR and 17HMR, I have to keep translating from one to the other. This calculator lets you work out where the flattest part of the ballistic curve for your particular gun is though and if you restrict yourself to those ranges, it is pretty much point and shoot. http://www.shooterscalculator.com/ballistic-trajectory-chart.php Enter your round's parameters and set the chart interval to 5 yards. You need to know bullet weight, ballistic coefficient and velocity. BC of many air gun pellets can be found here: http://www.photosbykev.com/wordpress/userfiles/pelletdata.htm And here too: http://www.chronoconnect.com/pellet-list.html This calculator is useful if you know the muzzle velocity with one weight of pellet and wonder how the gun will perform with a different one. You can use your power at the muzzle to estimate velocity with different weight pellets. http://www.pyramydair.com/airgun-resources/widgets/convert.php?Units&u=14 Of course, you can also just use the plywood board to work out where the flat part of the trajectory is

I found this good video about rabbit control with a FAC air rifle. Worth a look maybe... https://youtu.be/r41-1kh-3l8

Thanks Chris. I'll get some next time I'm in town. I have some crows and jackdaws to sort out now spring is here.

As I said in the PM, I was so frustrated at this problem in a previously pin point accurate rifle that I was about to chuck it in the safe and leave it there for my heirs to sort out when I pop off... Thanks to your generous giving of time and treasure I have it sorted. I'd never have come to this conclusion, because to my mind a spinning damaged pellet ought to fly off at a random angle on different shots, but all of these go leftwards. It just makes no sense to me, even now. That's probably because there is something about the flight dynamics that I don't understand. Were the AA Fields 16 grain or 18 grain Chris? Further to Dasher's remarks, I did find the H & N pellets harder to chamber. They worked fine too though, but may prove a bit rough on the washer in the breach that seals the pellet probe and breach interface. That gun is going to wreak havoc on the Jackdaws which are starting to tear up the barn roof to get in and breed. EDIT: I'm going to sit down with my Jeweler's Loup x10 magnification and compare the bad Accupels and the AA Field so that I can see what the differences are.

SOLVED: Thanks to help from a real gentleman Bruno22rf - Chris. He sent me two sample packs of pellets. One lot of AA Field and one lot of H&N Field and Trophy. Both of these types performed flawlessly and stayed in tight groups - or as tight as I could manage in the breeze. Then I tried my old Crossman Accupells - a pellet that had performed flawlessly at 12 ft pounds and I have used for years and years. The magazine of 8 shots now gave a four shot group of good quality and four terrible flyers about two inches away. They may be good at 12 ft pounds but they sure as hell aren't at 25 ft pounds. Funny really. They look impeccable. Bruno is a Diamond Geezer of the first order. Restores your faith in human beings to meet people like him.

I've been singing the praises of my .22 Webley Axsor PCP. It is a very similar gun to the Logun Axsor and the FX 2000. Differences are things like stock and pressure gauge. They are in all major ways the same machine. It has been on my FAC for years and only recently I had it on a chronograph and found it was barely over the 12 pound limit at 13.6ft/pounds. I hadn't used it for several years and since it was on the FAC I bought a FAC hammer spring, installed it and the rifle is now running at about 25ft/pounds (890fps with 14.3gn pellets). I was well pleased with the power, penetration and shot count after the change but I have a flyer problem, and I haven't been able to get to the bottom of it after a week or so of messing about and checking. About one shot in five flies high and to the left. Always the same position. Never anywhere else but high and left. I have been testing it from a good rest at 35 yards and have even tested on an indoor range. It is the same. The groups are generally tight except for these random fliers. They generally hit about 4cm off the main group at 35 yards. I have minutely examined the pellets (Crossman Accupells 14.3gn). The barrel shroud is screwed on secure at the muzzle and nothing is loose. There are no obstructions in the pellet path The barrel has been cleaned. The magazine is good - no looseness, damage or anything else. The problem happens even when pellets are loaded manually and I'm using only perfect pellets. It happens with or without the silencer being fitted so it isn't clipping and the space in the muzzle break is too great for clipping there. The crown of the barrel looks good. I googled of course and found a couple of other remarks about Axsor type rifles doing this but no solutions were offered. Any experience of this please? Hopefully someone knows how to solve it.

Somebody seems to have frontal lobe damage. Probably not the best qualification for someone interested in firearms. He got as far as his fifth post on the forum before losing his rag and having a tantrum. Not something you often see around here to be honest. I've met some real gents here, one of whom is certainly bruno22rf.