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  1. Call Duncan at The Clay Pigeon Company...usually some loan machines available, especially if you're buying their clays as well
  2. Working within the shooting industry if I told you counter systems were about £500 per stand for sporting, or per layout for DTL/ABT/Skeet would it make you wonder how many clays were going walkies to recoup that within 6-12 months?? The problem with most shooters who steal clays is that they think "it's only 5p a clay" forgetting that the ground charges 20-30p a clay so they can have a decent car park, clubhouse, new traps, etc, etc
  3. Cockett Farm is a good shoot. Other alternatives are East Midlands, Lowes Lane, Orston, Langar, Borders Wood, Hoton, Quorn, depends how far you wish to travel.
  4. I've got a Bettinsoli in the cabinet that is around 25 years old. Bought it in the days when Uttings were importing them and having lavish full page adverts in Sporting Gun. I'm sure it's a bit of a hybrid put together with whatever they had in the factory at the time - it's a sideplate model, 30" multichokes, advertising showed 2-3/4" chambers. Mine somehow has full magnum proof 3" - too be honest it throws some great patterns if you class the extra 1/4" as a nice forcing cone! Currently out of action due to a cracked stock, too many magnum loads through it shooting wildfowl - must really get it to a gunsmith and given a full overhaul, then get the stock repaired and fitted to me. Bombproof? They're not fancy guns, but in my experience they're well made and some models you certainly get more for your money.
  5. Depends what you want the machine for? Some serious practice for your weekend competitions or something to chuck a clay in the air? If you want a competition grade machine you want a Laporte, Bowman or Promatic. If you want something functional and reliable below that you want a Bidwell or Acorn. Certain imported "brands" aren't worth touching with a bargepole - they're cheap for a reason. Ebay can be a good source of second hand machines, but make sure you get a good one. I know plenty of people who have bought one then found it needed a major overhaul costing hundreds due to the previous owners lack of maintenance, or finding it was butchered with non-manufacturer parts because they were too tight to buy the proper parts.
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