slugger

working pressure 207 bar ........ test pressure 345 bar

up for sale is my 8.35 litre dive cylinder [i have been offered a 15 litre jobby so need to sell mine to raise funds] just been re-filled [today in fact] and still in test. £100 ono and im based in cornwall cheers

my s410

sfunny, i have an old version s410 with the non quick fill end [at least i assume it is seeing as my gun is so old?] and i can fill it from empty in under 4 seconds lol

to be fair, my lads only 7......and he manages ok, resting shots only of course, but as he gets bigger he'll be able to learn/be strong enough for standing shots etc

for sure the TDR is small and light, but its a big financial outlay........ especially for a first gun, and especially if your nipper is just "trying" the sport

air arms s200 , just got my lad one of these sencibly priced, small and light, yet very accurate and full power! and when he's a bit older im going to treat him to the 10-shot conversion kit [again, not too expencive] tbh, its that good, i wouldnt mind one for hunting, sorta gun you need only buy once, last the little-uns a lifetime! if only i had discovered it before i got him an smk springer [struggled to break the barrel] plus the s200 can have a nice silencer on it [so its just like dads]

wow, thanks guys, great info here i must confess this morning i was have a google nightmare finding dive shops/gunshops etc that could fill my bottle [even the one i mentioned that nearly an hour away was closed, or at least not answering the phone but i struck gold, and thanks to you lot i managed to "sound" like i knew enough to not get ripped off got myself a really nice chap 15 miles away that does gasses.......welding gasses/dive gasses etc...... he sold me a second hand 15 litre bottle [still at 200 odd bar, not 300] for 100 quid, plus he filled it, and my existing one for nowt extra......and we agreed very exceptable terms for future refills [like less than a tenner to fill both] also, he filled it, let it cool [while i took me dog charlie for a walk] and topped it up to just a smidge over wp...... he's had decades in the business and said its perfectly safe, and will give me another gun-fill or 2 so im a happy chappy........then i went [on the recomendation of the guy and his mate] to a hardly known gunshop nearby [was his brither in laws busines] and struck an awsome deal on an s200 for my lad...... today has been truly awesome, knowledge and toys, what more could you want i simply must give the gas-man a mention coz he was such a helpfull and generous guy, plus if any of you lot live/find yourself around his neck of the woods and need a top-up , he's got to be worth putting in your phonebook his name is ray nash, and the company name is R&R GASSES www.randrgasses.co.uk thanks all

now that would be good info, praps make it a sticky ?

need a second dive cylinder [nearest fill station is miles away], bigger the better, preferably cornwall based, or willing to post, wot ya got peeps ? cheers slug

hmm....... that works out at 17 fills........spose you lose a couple in "not enough pressure left to fill upto 170 bar" plus i guess you waste a fair bit with the bleeding each time you fill....... my nearest dive shop is 20+ miles away and coz of the narrow lanes etc its nearly an hour to get there......bumms maybe i should look out for another dive bottle..........may work out cheaper in the long run ive done a test..... if i fill to 170/180 bar........i can get 80-85 good shots before power drops to below 11 ft/lbs [lots of pellet drop if i carry on past this point]so realistically im looking at filling my big bottle every 2 tins of pellets.......which works out fortnightly [while im still enthusiastic] so a second bottle will turn it into a monthly trip to the dive shop, thats not so bad anyone else noticed the guage on the gun is rubbish ? when ive filled [even upto 190 bar]the gun-guage only shows 150/155 bar....... 80 shots later its showing 100 bar [which is more realistic] but i guess so long as you think of it as a "guide" rather than a prescision gauge, its all good

thanks guys 15 fills is a bit dissapointing tho........ had the gun 4 days and used 10 already

ok, its difficult to work out what all the numbers mean on my bottle [im trying to work out how many fills i can expect from it / how often i need to get it filled] ..... from what i can work out i "think" its....... 8.35 litres ? wp 207 bar [working pressure?] tp 345 bar [total pressure?] so first question, when i get it filled, will they fill to 207 bar ? or 345 bar? and have i guessed the litres bit right [bottle is 600 mm tall x 570mm around] so, assuming they fill it to the wp, and assuming wp = working pressure [207 bar which is about 3000 psi] how many fills can i expect from my s410 classic [longer than carbine] hope someone is good at this stuff ? also [gotta ask while i remember] could my bottle be filled to the tp [345 bar]? and if so, will i have to get a new regulated filler/connector thingy....... or could i get away with being bloody carefull with the tap ? sorry for all the questions, but i gotta learn