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sage 100 - I would genuinely appreciate that.
I have been reading up on SKBs. I saw one a few months ago and was very, very impressed by the lock up system. It looked almost over the top. Hard to imagine one shooting loose.
Good evening, Gordon
Apologies for the delay.
Firstly, I must declare an interest.
One of my lads that I am coaching has been recognised by the management at Caesar Guerini and consequently has been fortunate to receive a sponsored gun, and also I am a personal friend of Kevin Gill, one of the directors of Caesar Guerini, who I shoot with on a regular basis.
However, I would like to think that I am sufficiently professional to answer this question as my heart and experience tells me.
When I saw my first Guerini competition gun my immediate reaction, seeing only the traditional bottom bite, left me feeling that this gun would not stand the test of time as well as the big names in competition gun production. From an engineer's stance I think you have to appreciate the Perazzi, Gamba and Kaymen locking mechanism it is reassuringly strong and conforms to my belt and braces way of thinking. To contradict myself, Browning/Miroku have used bottom bite locking mechanisms for years and it would be a bold man that criticised their longevity. At the bench I have had to tighten all of the previously mentioned guns, not the Caesar Guerini at the moment as this gun is still fairly new to the English marketplace. If I had to come down in favour of a mechanism I would certainly favour the Perazzi/Gamba.
It has been proven that a single bottom bite, if well engineered, with a tapered bolt which consistently moves forward slightly as the grip deteriorates gives more than adequate and, in many cases, favourable barrel to action fit and keeps the gun on the action face. In the case of Caesar Guerini, this bolt is very well engineered, I think that they have benefitted from taking a long look at the experiences enjoyed by Browning/Miroku.
I am aware of one Caesar Guerini Summit model that is a shooting school gun and when servicing it this year I was very pleased to see how well it is standing up to a phenomenal amount of shooting. I feel this gun is certainly comparable to the Berettas and other guns in its price range and beyond. One incredible plus is the after sales service which I have experienced. A client lost the forend push rod. I requested a replacement. It appear by first class post with a compliments slip - quite unusual for the gun trade.
There are a number of items on the Caesar Guerini, and come to that, Beretta, which I positively dislike. I hate the ugly safety catch on both models, it looks like an afterthought. Trigger guards that finish at the rear of the action. What little more would it cost to extend them and finish them traditionally? On the CG the forend Anderson & Deeley style forend push rod is horrid. It looks to me as if somebody remembered it at the last minute and just stuck a piece of steel in the end. It needs re-engineering and ideally finishing with a proper escucheon around it to set it off. I am aware on their premier models they have addressed the trigger guard - now I'm being pernickety.
Gordon, I hope this answers your question. You obviously come from an engineering background and I tend to conform to your way of thinking, I feel.
Regards
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I have a greener FH1 its a basic model but its great fits soo well and so crisp and well ballanced, just saving to have it re proofed and re blued as I refuse to let it be sold
Good man keep it English proper guns.
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sage 100 - I would appreciate an opinion on the Guerini lock up system.
Perazzi, Kemen and Gamba have large shoulders either side of the barrel - which correspond with slots in the action walls. This looks a very strong and long lasting system.
How does the Guerini compare?
Gordon great question and It warrants a full reply may I respond tomorrow please as shattered
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I had an empire with electors given to me when I was a kid, damn good gun with great balance and it came to the eye just so fast.
Damn I miss that gun
Bet you wish you had kept the old lady!
I had the chance to buy a Blue rock live pigeon gun about 10 years ago from a dealer I was £50.00 pounds away from owning it but pride got in the way and I stood on my last offer and how I wish I had bought that gun.
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I had a Summit Trap, but parted company as it was too similar to my Beretta 682E Gold - handling wise. Very well balnced bun. Mine was actually heavier than my 682E Gold, but felt a lot lighter.I regret the decision.
I was impressed with the wood to metal fit and the finishing inside the action - where you don't normally see. They seem built to last and are excellent value for money in my book. I like Browning / Miroku and Beretta, but these are far more gun for your money.
100% Spot on echo Gordons's words
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Hello - I am looking to get a SxS for a bit of clay shooting and hopefully a bit of pigeon shooting, I have an O/U but really want to get a SxS even if its just to have something a bit different in the cabinet . I have just seen what looks like a very nice english gun by Greener, it had a Side mounted safety and an unusual looking cross bolt. It was built like a tank and was in good nick, the shop was asking £895.
I would love to hear any opinions of more experience shooters out there on these guns and the price the shop is asking?
Cheers Mike
Love Greener's
The Greener family has brought much to the gun trade. It is a true English gun and cost around £10.00 when new.
PS GO WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT FOR USEING GREENER AND AYA ON THE SAME PAGE. :blink:
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Sage, I thought the 525 was vented and not the GTS?
Life is SO confusing :(
Thanks for all the Replies.
GTS is vented
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i use mine for game no probs
Same action, same barrels, same stock profiles, different finish.
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well where shall i start.
I have had my escort magnum for 4 months now and put about 1000 carts through it. I stripped it down to clean and found
1/ magazine cut of spring missing
2/ Fore end horse shoe bracket fixing screw snapped off
3/ firing pin spring snapped in 3 bits
when it was working it cycled fine but not now.
It has been with Edgar Brothers now for 3 weeks not happy
:angry: :angry: :angry: so i called the shop that i brought it from and i am now waiting for a return call.
Has anyone else had dealing with Edgar Brothers how long do they take to fix/replace guns?
Have you got your gun back yet ?
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hi folks.
I been talking to a veteran shooter about rebluing my 1947 bsa cadet major barrel..
he was explaining to me an old method using a parafin lantern and holding the flame just under the steel until the soot covers the barrels.
Then the soot is rubbed into the steel using a cloth. he mentioned this takes about 2 days to do a whole gun.
has anyone else heard of this method and what are the results like?
i was tempted to used liquid blue but if this method would provide a more classic look then i,ll use it.
cheers
syborg.
The Old chap has got hold of the wrong end of the stick here.
I think he has been watching a gunmaker at work jointing barrels. We use a smoke lamp parafin and oil to give a sooty film on bright metal so as both surfaces come together we can see any high point. We call it smoke blacking, it will not act as a barrel finish. Just think this a slight misunderstanding
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I am looking for a reliable Gunsmith preferably in the West Midlands area who can sympathetically complete certificated De-activations of both Shotguns and Part 1 firearms.
The guns I have in mind are not economically viable to bring back to useable guns but are nice lookers and would make lovely wall pieces.
A shame to scrap them so anyone know the right man or woman please?
Cheers.
F J Wisemans Gunmakers proper people get a quote first
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I've recently started shooting 21g 7.5's for shooting clays with and have found them pretty good all round and as an added bonus they dont knock you to bits. Even after a couple of hundred rounds
However when I was at the range the other day I over heard some guy say that they thow bigger patterns than 28g 7.5's
What do you think?
meet the same two chaps the other day, told me if I put ladies knickers on prior to going shooting I would shoot 50% better ............... RESULT MY BALLS HURT LIKE HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hi
Can any of you advise, I have a 28" 12g sporter which is stock heavy and requires balancing to bring point of balance back to hing pin instead of being at the back of the action. Do I a) consider drilling out the stock or B) add weight to forend/barrel?
PS The stock is quite nice and I dont want to ruin it.
Thanks
Huey
Give me a call and I will give you some free advice and talk you through the job Sage.
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I'm gonna be getting my 1st shottie soon and have a chance of a Lanber for a decent price, but have been advised to try a few to see how they shoulder. But, I'm not really sure how I'll know if it's right or not? If I go for the Lanber I need to send a deposit to secure it then collect coz it's miles away from me.
I'm guessing an RFD will advise me but I don't know the ones local to me very well yet. If I say a budget to them do you think they'll give an honest opinion if I shoulder a few?
Cheers
Go to your local clay ground, find the coach be very up front with him and I would like to think he or she would give you a few minutes of quality time and run through gun fit with you and point out any special requirements you may have.
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Ive just bought a fully carpet lined ten gun safe for three guns just so i have less chance of dinging my gun on the cabinet. as my other smaller one was a pig to get in and out of.
Cleaned every time its used and wiped with oily duster cloth if touched for any reason.
Mates love it if i put there gun in my cabinet for storage over night after shooting and going onto the pub after as i won't put a dirty gun in my gun safe,hence one sparkling clean gun next day when picked up.
IF it gets knocked at all put a fiver in the cabinet every time you do, when you have got enough get the wood refinished
ATB figgy
Good call chap but it is people like you that keep me poor
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Hi Gents,
I think I might have officially given up on making my own so now I need to find someone to duplicate a stock. Any recommendations? Not an expensive stock, so I'm looking for budget not top end.
Thanks,
Rick
Call me Sage/Dennis UK Gun Repairs 01823665615.
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Hi Guys, bit of help needed, I have a Gorosabel 12g SBS shotgun with auto safety, having problems with the auto safety not allowing the gun to shut. does anybody have a drawing of the trigger and safety mechanism (haynes manual type) so I can see what to look for. Thanks for your help in advance. Issie40
Give me a call on 01823665615 and I will talk you through it on the phone have the gun in front of you and a few tools that fit the screws well. Sage/Dennis UK Gun Repairs.
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Hi guys,
I wonder if anyone could help, I bought a AYA recently and it has been firing perfect! Been out yesterday with it and everytime I pull the trigger it's firing both barrels at the sane time!!!!!! Has anyone else had this problem or can anyone advise on any action to take??
Thanks chaps!
I bet the left hand barrel trigger pull is light.
Regular problem just a re-cut of sear angles. A charge of one hour from your gun smith will sort that.
Regards Sage.
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well where shall i start.
I have had my escort magnum for 4 months now and put about 1000 carts through it. I stripped it down to clean and found
1/ magazine cut of spring missing
2/ Fore end horse shoe bracket fixing screw snapped off
3/ firing pin spring snapped in 3 bits
when it was working it cycled fine but not now.
It has been with Edgar Brothers now for 3 weeks not happy
:angry: :angry: :angry: so i called the shop that i brought it from and i am now waiting for a return call.
Has anyone else had dealing with Edgar Brothers how long do they take to fix/replace guns?
Edgars are quite quick, they have had lots of practice. Yours might cause a problem as it only has 3 problems.
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extract from Hatstands own instruction manual....
•Screw (clock-wise) the fore-end cap until it is tight and the fore-end is held firmly in place. (9)
I beieve your mates shop was spouting poo, OR trying to save himself some sweating and swearing when it comes back in for mending after its fired lots of rounds and never been cleaned.....
Come come Burpster Hatsans never get that dirty.................................... because the gunsmith cleans them several times a year
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I must say i have a fac 9+1 Hatsan MPA and have put nearly 3000 cartridges includung light heavy and slugs through it and it hasn't missed a heart beat
I think its a great shotty and for the money you cant go wrong well mine hasn't Oh, Straightshooter, now you have really destroyed my mental image of you. A man who is passionate about wood and achieving very pleasing appearances on both shotgun and rifles "that owns a Hatsan of any description is a contradiction to my mental image. Having said that, I own one. I use it on a regular basis, I have marked three strategic white lines on it about a foot apart, it's never missed a beat for the purpose that I use it for - measuring where to put the barb wire on fencing posts. Regards Sage.
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Felt I must reply. Care required here, you are welcome to try soaking chokes in a release agent, warming through in boiling water, but that has its problems should there be a small pin hole in the rib tinning the expansion will take on water between the ribs and over the following duration will erode the barrels from within the rib cavity. As to use of heat, this is a tradesman's job. Most ribs are secured using tin and the temperature necessary to release tinning is relatively low. Get the barrels too hot and you could get into awful bother. After trying to release them with a release agent, if this is not successful, seek the services of a professional gunsmith. If we can be of any help contact Sage/Dennis at UK Gun Repairs.
Sage/Dennis
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Be careful as if it is a 1 inch Sporting pad it will have a metal insert and will not bend!
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Ian is a personal friend and a gentleman, no problem there. Also ask to handle the Maxim model in 32 inch a great gun shot one for two seasons at game and pigeons give me a call and let me assure you that you are on the right track with both gun and your choice of RFD.
Enjoy Dennis UK Gun Repairs 01823665615.
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Regards Sage UK Gun Repairs.