andy198712

you got a pump or dive bottle yh? enjoy!

to an extent its in there breed, mine was pointing from a puppy, its getting them to know what i want pointed and holding it before loosing interest. good shout on the mental tiring, i put him the porch and hide treats around the house then give him the "find it" command and he loves that! thanks for the in put guys!

wheres the HFT club?

Read some reviews on the spas, ment to be horrendous ! Looks ace though lol

On the pump you can also pull back the action when moving around with an empty gun just so people know if you don't have a flag, same can be done on a semi. Checking one is visually clear is the same with any gun, ou or semi, pump IMO, check breach, check receiver and check tube generally can be done in one look at the right angle.

or diving clubs...

possibly and thought they were a crow or buzzard nest maybe?.....

i've not knowingly seen a drey down here, where have you seen those? nor have i seen any red's for ages :( happy to lend a hand poking dreys if you want? i'm pretty sure i've seen you around P leve ect....

are you letting the cocking handle go gently? you need it to be fully planted so just hit the button and let it slam home, if its not fully seated the above may happen...

they'll stock what they know they can shift easily, makes finacial sense right, you can walk in and order pretty much any legal gun from a RFD and they'll get it for you... my local has a few pumps in. partly as one of the guys in there loves them (thepasty, have you seen Romels DiY moderated 500?)

fair point, i am carful where he runs, this is national trust and fairly high volume of walkers and dogs so A no shooting, B not much wildlife due to high volume (kinda proves your point mind) C jus those bloody grey squirells about, but i deffinatly see your point and it gripes at me when dogs are let off over farm land or game land that they dont have permission to do so. i dont think my Viz would even get slightly tired from walking to heel, i cycle as fast as i can on same place and he just shrugs it off lol i'll keep an eye out for a washing line in the local shops and give it a try. i was doing one to one training with a dog trainer but she talked way to much about ****(non related chit chat) and been looking for another one since very greatful for the help on this guys

that is true!

Just dont roll your van doing it ummmkk??

yeah i normally run and comes running most times, either worried of being left behind or to chase me i dont know, but works well normally

cool, mine runs through alot of undergrowth and woodland ect like a mad man.... would be a tad warey at first to try but but would work!

raise you mine mines 78' and smoother then my local gunsmiths and hes a 870 nut....

the 870 wingmaster is arguably the AK of pumps

whats a drag lead sorry? True, but i know he hears me and i know he knows what it means lol like children i guess!! trying their limits

true!

good point, he knows leave in the sense to leave something if i tell him and he's good at that. so could try apply it here too. see this is the hard thing, sometimes if hes got his sights on something a treat wont deter him from it.... had it earlier today, he went and saw another dog, sniffed and carried on, ran on ahead, i brought him back, got him to sit by me then the dog came back but i made him wait while this other dog played around him (he did good here as he was close to me so didnt think he could get away with anything lol ) but i offered a treat and he just ignored till the other dog was gone. no offence at all mate, i think you probably have a point, i do play with him, chuck stuff and mess around, but not loads, i cuddle him more then a play with him i guess. but i do go by a "nothing in life in is free" rule where by to get a cuddle or scratch he must sit or come or "touch" ect and that improved the master/dog bond i felt when i started that. i'll get there as you say, its just doing it. my mind had wondered to a E collar so i can give a vibrate when he ignored my command and carries on running, i dont know....

duely noted, dont give a command if you cant enforce it, i knew that but didnt think about it here... school boy error thanks for pointing it out, an extra set of eyes is always handy in these things. would you just walk off if it happened?

i growl too to show him something is wrong around the house lol he does do well, it just seems some days your back to square one, bit more elbow grease needed i guess

Hello, Got a almost 2yr old Viz, He is a pet and not a sole gun dog, currently sat next to me sleeping on the sofa.... i guess my question is around distraction recall. senario: walking along off the lead in a woods/lake kinda place along road width paths, IE plently off room to pass others. when i give the command, "Ruben Come" he normally returns well, i've also started adding in 3 pips of the whistle to this and seems to be working well. So, other dogs walking along too, Ruben see said dog and i give him a stay command, most of the times he stays (if he's close by) and waits till i say "OK" which is his release, at which point i will use the "Heel" command which i've been working on lately, but some times he will slowly start to speed up and then just shoots off not giving a spud about me... or if he see's a dog ahead and i do too so call him back, he comes back but the moment i release him hes shooting off a good 100-150m? away to play with this other dog, ignoring my command. i dont really see this as his fault as much as mine, yes he isnt listening to me as he should and i know he is having alot of fun playing with other dogs which i do allow but i want it to be under my saying so, and ends when i tell him.... some times i try calling him and running away this works ok, sometimes the whistle works well ect but sometimes its him deciding when to return..... not cool! it not that bad or that often but i want it sorted really, i dont want him stuck to my heel the whole walk as he loves to run around the woods and it helps to exercise him also and i dont want to deprive him of that.... but when hes sodded off too far there is so little you can really do, i never run after him, and do hide some times if he goes on round a corner out of my sight and he does comes shooting back looking for me (great) any input on what i should try or be doing? Cheers Andy

have you got a dive shop near by? they could charge them for you very cheaply, few quid.... just an option

whats the effective range for a rabbit with the 303?