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Hi Montydog. I have a camo hatsan escort for sale. I've been meaning to post it up on PW. I need the space in the cabinet as I've started shooting a Benelli instead. I'm based on North Manchester straight off the m60 so shouldnt be too bad a run for you. Let me know if your interested and I'll PM you some pics and serial no. etc

I think that's a good call. My neighbour has just done something similar to use the cellar as a lockdown office space and seems to be fairly habitable after that. Gonna be significant time and expense so I'll have to keep it at bay in the meantime. I'll might just have to get really regular on the cleaning routine, rather than the ones that get used the most get cleaned the most. The one that's show a bit of corrosion is admittedly one I don't use very often. Fortunately I had a bit of a cull and got rid of a few guns a year or two back so not got too many to clean these days.

Good shout on that. I have found one on Amazon for ~£40. I might double that up with the acf-50 And vpi paper mentioned above. I'm a little bit OCD and if they get rusty it will do my head in

Already tried to address that. I fitted an envirovent extractor fan that runs 24hrs/365 and fitted a new rad which keeps it at minimum 15c. I'd hate to think how bad it would be if I hadn't done those 😣 But that said and done I'm still considering a stand alone dehumidifier outside the cabinet.

A little help and advice sought please. My brattonsound gunsafe is in the cellar. Needless to say this isn't an ideal location, but it's out of sight and realistically is the only practical location in the house except the loft, which isn't really that practical as I would wake my young children accessing them on my early morning and night shooting exploits. Unsurprisingly one of my guns is starting to show some minor signs of corrosion. Despite fairly regular cleaning and ritualistic application of silicone spray and silicone cloth before putting them away. I've even tried putting them all in silicone gun socks while in the safe. The cellar is damp to the point I fitted an extractor fan to try and wick away the moisture. I've also been putting in those moisture traps from the homeware stores. Though these aren't great as if they spill the contents as turns out the chemicals are pretty corrosive. I had to change a screw on my butt plate as it came into contact with the fluid and rusted pretty badly. I'm looking at other solutions for humidity. I've tried all of the above plus the usual vp90 sachet and even those vp90 wipes. My thoughts are an electronic bar type dehumidifier or some sort of mini fan vent, like you get in the backs of PC's. I could fit a very narrow electrical cord in the door hinge. Otherwise it would mean drilling a small hole. Has anyone ever done this, I assume it's fairly strong steel? Also would this wreck the cabinets BS certification, even if it was only a tiny 6+8mm whole to accommodate an electrical cord.

I'm interested in one of these. Got 'horsey' neighbours and they seem to think hearing shots will send the horses into meltdown. Although you can quite plainly see the horses happy as Larry carrying on eating oblivious to the noise. She came marching over morning just as I was starting to make a real dent in the corvids that had been pecking the sheep. I politely apologised and packed up and referred back to the farmer to ask how he wanted to deal with it. The farmer wants to keep them sweet as her fella helps out with some of the livestock when he's away. Although he agrees she's talking absolute rubbish about it scaring the horses. He's asked me to keep to the other end of the farm away from their boundary. But as **** law dictates it's where all the best flight lines and sitty trees are. Has anyone successfully used one of these with a Hatsaan escort? They aren't listed in the choke options, but do they match the Mobil chokes? Also have you the ability to choose your choke, I'd probably go for 1/2. Is the a-12 steel and plaswad safe? I know the hushpower once are fibre only

Hi sniper0161, Only just saw this,I'm surprised at the lack of interest. I'm north Manchester so Cheshire is fine for me. I do a lot of pigeon and crow shooting, plus rough shooting in the season. DSC1 qualified and BASC. Got a .270 but my license isn't open so I need to go out with someone when shooting the rifle. Keen to get into foxing. If you've not already found someone and still want someone to join you please let me know. Cheers

Some silly NIMBY apparently. It must be unbearable having you peace and quiet disturbed one morning a fortnight!! Selfish ****!

Yeah it is. The A6 and Bolton gun club shared the site. Bolton has reopened at a new site on Ringley Road, Radcliffe, M26 1DT. www.boltongunclub.co.uk They meet every other Sunday, sporting only for now but they were installing the DTL layout last weekend so that might be up an running at the next shoot.

Or she! So summary execution is out of the question then?

Green quarries nine miles southwest of Carlilse. Quite a drive from where you are though. £60 for 100 clays of simulated game shooting. I was initially put off but the price but Pete comes round with you and provides instruction. The targets are really unique, the simulated partridge flush is great fun and the high tower really is high! My high bird shooting improved massively after my last visit.

For free? Worth it even just to give the b**stards the extra paperwork.

Apologies for the Environmental Health/Agency mixup. Regarding footpaths I'm sure there would be a way to manage access during shooting hours. I agree people shouldn't be stopped from using a footpath but they can't expect to have access 24/7 365. What is stopping the farmer putting a bull in the field? I'm sure as hell that would temporarily stop people using the rights of way. There must be countless rifle ranges that use the red flag system to stop people straying into harms way. If necessary shooting could be suspended while ramblers used the footpath and re-commenced once they were out of the area. It would be an interesting exercise to mount a few motion activated trail cameras on the footpaths to see how often they were actually used, especially as one of them appears to be a dead end. I'm sure the club would bend over backwards to accommodate reasonable measures if the council was prepared to enter a debate about it. The council seems rather eager to say no. Well it is a Labour majority council and as a party they don't have the best record on shooting to say the least!

Application Refused! On the grounds that it is too near to residential properties. Apparently the Environment Agency recommend a minimum distance of 1-1.5km from any houses. Not sure how many locations actually exist in the England that don't have any houses within that distance! It seems the fact that the other ground had been in almost exactly the same location for 37 years was lost on Bolton Council. The old ground had an exception granted in 2001 as it had been in operation for over ten years and I suppose anybody buying a property would be doing so in the full knowledge that the ground existed. There were also issue of rights of way and objections about building a club house on green belt, though the regulations state that exceptions can be made for essential facilities for outdoor sports. Not sure where they will go from there, appeal or look for another site? Another option would be to operate for less than 28 days in a year. Keeping under this threshold means no planning consent is required. Though I doubt they would be able to build skeet towers and a club house. Probably have to settle with a sporting layout and a DTL.

Not sure, apparently the sale fell through so the current owners still have it, minus two successful clay clubs paying them thousands in rent every year. Serves them right if you ask me. The farmer ploughed it up without consulting the club while they were still tenants. Not sure if that would prevent an extraction company reclaiming the lead? What it did do was leave a muddy field covered in plastic wads and bits of broken clay, which looks a lot worse than the same debris hidden in the long grass.

Bolton Gun Club have a planning application in for a new site 75yrds away from the original site of the club. The decision is due any day now. If anybody is interested the application is available online. http://www.planningpa.bolton.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=neighbourComments&keyVal=DCAPR_80663&neighbourCommentsPager.page=1 They propose several DTL layouts, a skeet and a few sporting/practice stands. Hopefully this will provide an alternative to Worsley or the long drive to Fauxdegla. They were forced to move after 37 years (also the site of the A6 club) after the land was sold from underneath them. Hopefully it will be approved and the club can continue providing somewhere to shoot at a reasonable cost. Bolton was where I learnt to shoot and I know of many other people who were introduced to the sport here. The clays were cheap and guns and instruction were provided free of charge. I have nothing against the Worsley's of this world (I use it often) but this sport need clubs like Bolton to introduce new blood. Without this the commercial grounds have a bleak future. Personally I probably wouldn't have taken it up if I had been forced to pay £50/25 clays for tuition at a commercial ground. Some of the objections make depressing reading, you would have thought if they were so anti-noise (read shooting) they would have purchased properties elsewhere rather than near an established clay ground. The A6 used to shoot here midweek evenings and on weekends, so contrary to what the objections state there is no actual increase in hours. Also they harp on about it being green belt land, one of the stated aims of greenbelt land is to promote the participation in country sports.

You might want to keep your shotgun out of reach, in case it becomes too much to bear and you start thinking about taking the easy way out.

From the CPSA website, not been yet myself but am planning on going up in March. It's on every other sunday. Have tried ringing the number in the past but no joy. Was just going to rock up on the Sunday morning. PENRITH & DISTRICT GC LTD Address CUMBRIA. (VIA MAIDENHILL OR STONEY BECK) MAIDENHILL CUMBRIA CA11 8RR Secretary CAROLINE GUNNING Phone 07890 298538 Category Registered Grid Ref. NY 5305 3490 Disciplines DTL, ESP, STR, ABT

Hi Frenchieboy, I'm interested in visiting the club. PM sent with my contact details. Hope you don't mind. Cheers

A mate of mine organised a stag do in Manchester and they took a trip to Worsley. It went well by all accounts so I could recommend it. The best part was when he was chatting to a stripper later in the evening and she asked what else they had done for the stag do. When he told her they had gone clay pigeon shooting she replied 'oh that's so cruel'. My girlfriend went to Boar shooting ground (before I met her) and told me she was pretty much left to her own devices. Considering it was only the second time she had shot she didn't have a clue where she was missing and got a bit disheartened. I've only just put that right and got her interested in shooting again by taking her to Bolton for tuition with the club coach. I'm not suggesting what they did was unsafe as I wasn't there so can't say categorically that somebody didn't have an eye on her making sure it was safe or what kind of initial safety brief there was.

Sorry to ask such a simple question but what does an 'Open Ticket' mean?

It's a 30". If I don't go for this one in the end then I will probably go for a MK38 Mirokou.

Thanks for the opinions guys. I know it's nigh on impossible to give a decent answer without looking at the gun yourself. At least i'm slightly better prepared than I was before. I shoot a Grade 1 Browning 325 at the moment and love it, just its far to flat shooting for DTL. I have to block out the clay with the barrel and no matter how hard I try I just can't get a decent score with it. As soon a I borrow a trap gun for a detail my scores jump up dramatically.

I go up there every month or so anyway as that's where my parents live so no bother for me. I just meant I cant exactly take one of the local shooters along with me for a second opinion like I would be if it was a local shop. Been around a lot of the local shops and all the guns I seem to find that are in my price range are very tired looking guns that I'm definately sure arn't worth the money.

Cheers gents. There were very slight marks in the bores near the breech but that was all. The action was tight but he himself admitted on a gun of that age it probably will have been re-tightened at some point. The wood was lovely and the blueing was all original. He admitted himself he doesnt do much in Trap guns so isn't sure himself how fair a price it is. He's selling on behalf of a customer. I'm off to Bolton tomorrow so i'll ask around the DTL shooters there what they think. Trouble is it's so bloody far away I cant take one of the more experinced lads up with me for a second opinion.