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I am wondering if products like Legia lubricate as I would rather not use oil if possible. The Legia is more of a 'dry' product and I would much rather use this than oil but I don't know if it is a lubricant. What dry lubricant are you using Martin?

Is it really necessary to run through the barrels with oil after using a specific cleaner such as Legia or does the cleaner also lubricate. Cheers fellas.

Just out of curiosity does anyone know if the 686 Silver Pigeon S is actually available as a Sporter? It only seems to be available as a field gun on the beretta website yet some of the other SP models are available as sporter or field?

Thanks mate, can you use it on the outside of the barrels or is it best too just give them a rub with an oily patch or kitchen roll?

Anyone come across 'Browning Legia Spray', I got an aerosol chucked in when I bought my gun. Is it just a cleaner to spray down the barrels and is it necessary to oil the inside of the barrels after cleaning? Thanks.

Thanks cat, I just need to track down a decent instructor/school up here (North West).

Just to let you all know I did go to a few local gunshops and ended up with a Beretta. It did seem as before to be the gun that fit me best out of all those I tried. I ended up with a Silver Pigeon S instead of the SP 3 as I didn't see the point in paying extra for better wood, etc when the gun is basically the same. I ended up with 30" barrels in the end (I did look at both 28" and 30" ) as I just seemed to prefer the way it shouldered and moved. I think it was probably the right move as I have decided to try and get in a decent amount of clay shooting and probably a lesson or two. The gunshop insists if I am unhappy they will get me into the 28" gun at little (if any) cost. They also suggested re-sale would probably be a little better on the 30" barrels? I also went with the M/C in the end as the wood is fantastic on my gun and I would have had to order the F/C and accept whatever wood I got. I looked at 3 silver pigeon S guns and the timber on mine is better than the others by a long way. I have just stuck 1/4 and 1/2 in the barrels and probably will just leave them. Many thanks for all your input. :blink: Any other SP users using 30" barrels?

Thanks, I'll let you all know what I go for in the end but I will try and look at more guns.

Another I'll look at though for some reason the gunshop seemed to think Beretta suited me better (and they did have a lot of Brownings). I'm off out now for a few beers but I will check in again tomorrow for any suggestions.

i wouldnt nessicarily agree with this buy what feels right, and fits you i shoot a sporting gun for everything, the gun is a miroku mk70 sport, this gun is nearly identicle to my old mans mk70 game in every way apart from the fit. My gun has alot mroe drop at comb than his does. However weight is the same or very similar. For this reason buying a game version of my gun just on the basis it would be lighter would be wrong. The sporter fits better, and fit is more important than anything else when choosing a gun. go to a large gunshop with an asistant who is a competent shooter and ask them to show you a selection of guns beretta, browning, miroku, winchester, blaser, perazzi, rizzini, lanber, betolsi (spelt wrong) are all good makes but over a very different price range. If you are tall with long arms or slopeing shoulders then i would not look too closely at beretta O/U's out of all of the ones ive tried (alot of them) ive found 2 which fitted me well. They typically suit shorter armed broad shouldered types (but this is a genralisation as some models do cater for people of my build) best of luck btw what is your price range, may help us to guide you Thanks for the reply mate. The reason I was mentioning the 687 SP was because that was the gun that seemed to fit me best in the gunshop although I am unsure as to whether it was a Game or a Sporter to be honest. I will definitely look into any other suggestions or recommendations to try though so please fire away. My budget is around £1000-£1200 (max), I wouldn't previously have spent this kind of cash on a gun but I have had a bonus over Xmas after having a crappy year and just fancied treating myself. My last gun was an old tempermental S/S that was kind of inherited so I think whatever I get is going to feel great. Oh and that's nice to hear about the auto-safety! Thanks.

Thanks for the input folks, it sounds like f/c is the way to go then. I seem to remember hearing some negative comments about the game gun having an automatic safety (which comes on when you break the barrels I think), has anyone found this to be annoying and is it possible to get the game gun with a manual safety? Cheers.

Thanks for the reply mate. I know what you mean but my thinking was that with the m/c I would be able to tinker and would be a little more adaptable as my only gun. Are there any downsides to the m/choke in comparison with the f/c apart from price (presumably m/c is more expensive)? Cheers.

Hi all, This is my first post but I have been lurking for a couple of days and it seems like a great forum. I am getting back into shooting after being away for 5 or 6 years and am wondering about shotgun choice. I have access on my doorstep to a good 500+ acres rough shooting and also access to some pheasant shooting as there is a very small shoot run on some of this land, I probably won't do much clay shooting (maybe 3-4 times per year max) so basically 95% rough/game. The gun I am considering is the Beretta 687 Silver Pigeon 3 with 28" barrels and m/choke (game/field version), it seems to come to my shoulder nicely and it is the one gun I seem to keep looking at. Would this be a good choice for game and also do the very occasional sunday morning clay shoot. Any downsides....is the auto safety a huge pain to live with, etc, etc? Also anyone fired the game and Sporter versions? Hope you can offer some insight. Many thanks.