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I own both. I'd recommend that to anyone. However the choice depends on what you expect the gun to do. For hunting a multi shot pcp wins hands down every time in my experience. Its easier to shoot and offers the multi shot capability which is for me has put more game down. I've lost opportunities whilst reloading my TX. Having said this the TX is more fun to shoot. Its a good looking gun and if your first priority is not game in the bag then Id go for a springer. Though in truth you will very likely end up buying a pcp later for hunting like I did.

Thanks for all the info everyone. And thank you Tony. You did make some valuable points that no doubt stem from experiance. A breeder of HWV explained it this way. In England, a man who kept dogs for shooting was (historically) generally wealthy and kept a specific breed for each situation encountered on mostly formal shoots. In East Europe however the peasants could only afford one dog who had to earn his keep. They were ruthless in pursuing this breed and today after many generations of breeding now have very versatile dogs that are truly capable. These dogs are relatively new to us in the UK. This makes sense. I've got a bit more thinking to do and some reading too. Thanks again for the input and I'll keep you in the loop. Dan

Hi Im looking at a first gundog. I want it to be suitable for pigeon shooting i.e. from a hide and wild fowling too should I get involved more with that. I'm stuck a bit. I really like the Hungarian wire haired vizsla which is, I admit something different but I've heard many good things about them. The other dog I like is the springer spaniel. I like labs but just don't fancy one. Nothing at all against them but they are not on my list right now. Can any of you more experienced dog handlers give me any advice here on what direction I should take. I have 3 kids (12,9,5) wife who is at home during the day and we are all keen. Can Springers make good retrieving dogs? Any feedback is appreciated. Dan

Yes. That makes sense. Thanks guys. Dan

Ok that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up. He told me the chokes were set at half and and quarter. I saw this on the barrel this evening and thought my ignorance had been exploited!

Thanks mate. Sorry but I'm new to this! Will 2 x 3/4 inch fixed chokes be too tight for pigeon shooting?

Picked up a new gun today which I'm well chuffed with. Its a Beretta S686 special. Question. On the barrels it says 12GA.2 3/4"-28" Its a fixed choke but can anyone confirm the size of the chokes? Does this mean its got 2 x 3/4inch chokes? When I figure out how to compress the pictures I'll put a few up. Dan

Thanks everyone

Excuse my ignorance! Whats a pallet hide? I might guess it has something to do with pallets

As the title suggests I shoot a field of rape. A large flock is hammering the middle of the field. Whats the experts thoughts on setting up shop in the centre of a field? Will it spook the birds etc? D

.20 cal if you ask me 😤

Hi Guys. I'm looking for a hand putting some pigeon on the deck on some winter rape right now. I've got a couple of perms. I'm not looking to share the permission but could use an extra gun while out to have the most effect on the birds. PM me if your interested. You must have your own gear and a bit of experience. Apologies if we spoke before but I've changed computer and can't find my old posts at the moment!? All the best Dan

And thanks too to everyone else whose given some advice here. Dan

Thanks mate ill send you a message. Dan

hi mate I'm in Oxfordshire. He's keen on me shooting over the rape. Why? I don't know really The perm contains woodland and some recently ploughed feilds. Also some of the fields are huge. I didn't see many birds on the ground on my initial walk at about 12:30 in the day. Its knowing how to interpret what I'm seeing with a view to successful shooting where I struggle.