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Lock Stock & Barrel

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  1. Fair point - my mistake, but let's not get too carried away. Correction: it doesn't take a repeal of the constitution, but an amendment to it. The two are not the same. Nonsense: you can't call something 'propaganda' merely on the flimsy basis that you might disagree with it. With the exception of the Northern Irish dog license, find one example of something I've posted here which you can dispute using impartial, reliable (i.e. not from the NRA, FOX 'News' or other similar partisan voodoo) sources - seeing as a number here seem to think that merely by offering an ill-informed or unsupported opinion they can have any credibility. Can you please provide a verifiable, non-NRA source for this claim?
  2. That is how the law works: unless something is expressly forbidden (i.e. illegal), it is legal - ergo a right. The fact that you might need a license to do same merely addresses the issue of the concomitant responsibilities which go with that activity - such as driving a car, owning a firearm or watching a TV. The UK doesn't have, thankfully, a written constitution - at least not one that's codified; so we can add to or change our laws as we see fit - unlike the US, who need what amounts to an act of God to try and change their Constitution on any given matter under the guise of an amendment.
  3. No, that's flawed logic: everyone in the UK has the right to own a dog (unless barred for legal reasons from doing so - e.g. after being found guilty of animal cruelty), but they need a license to own one. People have the right in the UK to watch TV, but they need a license to do so - or are you saying that people who live in areas where they can't get TV reception are haing their rights are infringed?
  4. Ah, so because some of these deaths are gang-related, that makes it OK then...? We'll be the judge of this alleged study's impartiality - please post your source for it so we can judge for ourselves.
  5. And the fact that there are over 30,000 gun-related deaths in the US every year doesn't dint your ardour in that completely specious assertion? Let's see you back up your "beliefs" with some hard and impartial evidence - or is that too much to ask?
  6. Then for the love of god what is it you're creating about? Shotguns face no immediate prospect of being banned (be they for game or clays), so what's your beef?
  7. Did you two just fall asleep and miss the biggest shooting show in the country or something? There were million of pounds worth of all manner of guns to be bought - legally.
  8. Having seen someone die from Dementia, akin to, but not the same as Parkinson's, I can understand why it makes sense either to remove or not re-issue their FAC or SGC. After all, driver's licences are removed or refused for certain people without either of these diseases when they patently are not safe to be behind the wheel of a car due to infirmity or illness (e.g. the risk of heart attack). If, as the police do, you have a public safety brief as your job description, why would you then knowingly allow someone with the symptoms of either disease hold a weapon where they hold the more than likely prospect of not being in control of their own faculties - potentially resulting in the intentional discharge of that weapon in the direction of other people? It's bad enough when able-bodied shooters have a negligent discharge, but to place a gun in the hands of someone who cannot control their shooting safety discipline just seems insane.
  9. Hardly - merely just anti-******** artistes who make no effort to fact-check their posts here before gobbing-off like some paranoid whiner.
  10. You've clearly not red the article - and if you have, you've done your usual trick of filtering out anything (regardless of how accurate) with which you disagree. C'est la vie.
  11. Whilst conveniently forgetting that background checks for criminal record or history of mental illness, depression, addiction etc are not done as a matter of course in the US. Many US states require no background checks whatsoever. Switzerland is often held up by "liberty-luvvin Merkins" as the 'model' by which access to weapons should be applied - when they (again, conveniently) forget that the process for applying for a weapon's permit in Switzerland is just as stringent, and perhaps more so, than that in the UK.
  12. This has nothing to do with the "nanny state", as it's a personal business decision taken by Google - I suspect after the recent spate of school/shopping mall/university massacres in the US. An example of the nanny state would be where the UK or US gov't had enforced this move upon Google, and neither has, so this is the polar opposite of nanny state and actually an example of a company in a free market economy making its own business decisions. Go ahead a boycott who you like, but this has nothing to do with the state, nanny or otherwise.
  13. OK, Remmy, here's an offer - if you meet me at Worsley on any given Wednesday, Saturday or Sunday, I will pay for your 100 birds and shoot the course with you. How's that?
  14. Fair comment mate, I never had you pegged as a moaner, and you do make valid points. And yes, I'm aware of the reason the turn out at Worsley was a lot higher than expected was because of the course setter - but, to be fair, after the criticism of the ground on here after the last reg comp there prior to this one, we do at least have to give credit to the powers that be at Worsley for listening to that criticism and then doing something about it - i.e. bring in Brian to set the course. Just one of the things I remember when we wrapped up the shoot was the merciless banter over a brew amongst many of the shooters who'd shot the course - which we're happy is all part and parcel of the sport we love. Costs for some will, understandably, be an issue/factor in deciding when and where any given shooter can shoot - but I suspect it's always been that way and is not a new phenomenon. Add to that the cost of lead shot going up and down like a whore's draws, and it's just one of the factors which inform any shooter how often they might buy shells and then shoot.
  15. As for how much it costs for 100 ESP birds at Worsley - it's £30 for non-members and £25 for members - and members get an extra 20 clays thrown in on top of that as a loyalty bonus and to make allowance for any no birds. I understand that not everyone can live within easy striking distance of the ground to shoot there regularly enough to make it viable to become a member, but that's life.
  16. I shot the reg comp at Catton Hall (birds only) last year (actually on the same day at Worsley's last reg comp of the year, 23rd Dec), and from what I ascertained on the day, many shooters shot the Worsley comp first and then made it down to Catton to shoot that comp too (or vice versa), either the comp or birds only. I'll reiterate that I'm aware of the fact that shooters come in all depths of pocket, and also reiterate that shooting grounds - to one degree or another - are damned if they do and damned if they don't when it comes to pricing. That said, and perhaps others here can be more accurate than me, as I've never shot the ground, but how does the £36 reg comp and £31 B/O at Worsley compare to somewhere, say, like EJ Churchills, or any of the other big grounds down south? Similar or massively different? I will say that Worsley expected somewhere in the region of 80 shooters at the last comp - all in, they actually got 147 - with something like a 80% shooing the comp and 20% shooting B/O. Worth noting, too, that I've not read or heard any negative press about the shoot either - with possible exception of there being no birds off the High Tower... and that was because that weekend was forecasting the same blustering winds that had plagued the area most of the previous week (I know, I shot there on the previous Wednesday, and some birds were just taken away by the wind and were last seen heading towards Liverpool) - but try as they might, neither the ground's manager, owner, or the guy who set the course for the last registered shoot there can control the elements. So if you remove factors beyond their control, I've still yet to hear any serious negative feedback after the shoot. And let's be fair - shooting is like any other sport: shooters will always, always, always find a reason to have a moan about something. Well let's just say that regardless of what they do, someone will find a reason to moan - and that's not aimed anyone here, either, just a mere statement of fact. Damned if they do and damned of they don't.
  17. "Money to burn"? OK, so look at the amount to you paid for your gun(s); the amount you happily/begrudgingly pay for shells each week/month; the fact that you travel the country to shoot a goodly number of reg comp's; and then tell me you can't stretch to pay the difference between the £31 for birds only, and £36 for the reg comp? And as to your claim that it was "£28 birds only in Dec 2012" - are you completely sure about that? I checked with the ground and got a different answer. The last reg comp of 2012 was on 23rd Dec 2012 and from what I can gather, the cost for birds only was the same the 03rd Feb reg com. I fully appreciate that shooters come in all shapes and depths of wallet - but denying yourself the prizes for the sake of a fiver, when you're clearly good enough to take on the AA's on the day just seems like parsimony.
  18. I remember wondering whether or not to laugh at someone who'd paid birds only... who then went on and got a score close to the 94 that won the reg comp's High Gun and the prizes, and because they were birds only, they'd excluded themselves from the prizes... for the sake of a fiver (to shoot the comp cost only £36). Proof positive that you can't please all the people, all of the time, as there will always be whiners.
  19. If you perhaps knew how many thousand acres of permissions he has to police, vets' "requests", pest/vermin control and deer culling he has to take care of, it's amazing that he gets any time to comment here, let alone help others out with mentoring.
  20. Without being asked - maybe post your shooting calendar dates on a few more forums - perhaps make other folks know you've got a shooting ground and dates on which they can visit your ground and shoot there? Just saying...
  21. Yep - add me to the above praise for Pete (FrenchieBoy). Been shooting with him a few times now since he introduced him to his various shooting squads. Top bloke.
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