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Very sad news, I thought Bottom was brilliant! Rick "how do you know these things?" Ade as the grim reaper "I'm death" Rick "oh I'm sorry, HOW DO YOU KNOW THESE THINGS?!?! Genius.... Couldn't help but smile after what Ade had said "And now he's died for real. Without me. Selfish *******" Proof if ever needed of their great partnership RIP Rik

My Labrador is headstrong in a big way as in if he heard a gunshot and he was more than 10 yards from me he used to think "I'll fetch that" hence I only take him when I'm by myself or with my son because his game finding is outstanding.

I'll wait till next year when it's at belvoir castle, only around half an hours drive plus my kids get in free

Thanks Shaun my 9 year old son has one on his 28 bore, he shot his first pigeon last night using 21g 6's and when I asked him after if it kicked much he said he never felt a thing! Well chuffed for him

Cheers figgy never heard of that one, was thinking of a recoil pad for my other half when we get around to getting her a gun from wabbitbosher

Thanks Shaun think I will too! For how much clay shooting the good lady and I do they seem to fit the bill

How do you find the recoil figgy? I only ask as I like the idea of buying one type of shell for me and my other half. I'm not sensitive to recoil but my good lady is, she shot fiocchi's 21g shell and had no ill effects after a 100 bird round at grimsthorpe yet when she used trust's 28g shell they hurt her a bit. She was using my sxs so I know it's light compared to an o/u sporter but then again she doesn't like a heavy gun.

I too have used hull pro fibres in 24 grams and yes they do cost more! I take it the superfasts kick more? I found the pro fibres nice and soft

Don't mean to correct you sir but they sound more like the kids show power rangers

Interesting reading how the closest result is still 150fps less than stated! Mind you as Mark Russell told me you wouldn't notice it when shooting

And going by your videos they certainly work!

Fair play to you mate, I'm not the best at adjusting lead swings according to cartridges I'm using.

I had one as a fleet vehicle for work and it was ok, mpg averaged from 39 to 42 depending on load carrying but I would recommend one of the higher bhp models. Not sure what they are now but at the time mine was a 55 reg and all 1.8 engines with 75, 90 and 110 bhp. Our fleet vehicles were the 75bhp model and were a little sluggish at times.

Sound advice as always

I agree I just wasn't sure if there was a new range out but checking their website it's all the same still. Have you done this yourself deershooter or know of someone that has? I personally don't use them and prefer their pro fibre shell or their super soft comp x shell when my 9 year old son has a go with my 12 bore.

Please buy one so I can drool over the pictures

That's the game variety sir, still supposed to be a great cartridge for the money, I've checked hulls website they're still 1500fps for the clay version

Hi guys somebody I know reckons he had a good day with these today and claimed they were 1550 fps?!?! I replied that they were 1500fps but he reckons his were new ones? By the way I'm talking of the 27g 7 1/2 clay loads and as far as I'm aware there wasn't a 'new' type out

Sold to Derekbomag! Nice to meet you sir

Ok how about £140??

Thanks very much

Well to be honest there's not many around so not sure value wise! There's more info from the states than anywhere else

Is kent better known for ducks rather than geese? If so a 12 would be better suited in my opinion

Gorgeous air rifle, good shot as well

Price dropped to £175 ono