Old farrier

There’s plenty of chemicals used now obviously not toxic 🙄 however they kill all the bugs insects and caterpillars on the crops because people won’t buy a cabbage or cauliflower with a caterpillar in it

And mine most arable land is turned over and cultivated before the birds nest probably the biggest threat to wild game birds is farming practice sprays planting methods and predators not lead shot

Little screen shot here 🤔 beginning to hope everyone will be singing from the same hymn sheet

Anyone got any keepers diary dvd lurking in the back of the cupboard looking for the set if possible pm with prices and postage costs please many thanks in advance all the best OF

I read it before you posted the link and re read it again nothing in it relevant to the question I asked rarely get up to marford mill nowadays

Reading is my preferred choice I can’t put up with the whistling and cracking I far prefer to engage face to face over a cup of tea with cake far more gentlemanly than a telephone call

Can’t believe no one has mentioned tin baths in front of the fire privies down the garden shiny izal toilet paper if you were lucky now wash your hands 😂

Well you’re probably not as deaf as I am 🙄🙄🙄🙄 along with many other shooting folks

I was trying to be subtle about the podcast unless it has subtitles it’s useless to me and many others

Ok I understand that it’s voluntary transition now hears the quandary If steel is so good why don’t clay shooters use it ? surely you want the best performing cartridges for shooting game birds

No help at all I’m afraid 🙄

In the plus side the predators are having a field day it must be so easy for them to catch the birds leaving the rest alone can’t listen to any podcasts I’m afraid

Rule one when you’re in a hole stop digging 😂 Many of the world’s problems are caused by bright academics very few by country bumpkins 😂

Thanks for the info Gordon I have just finished reading it through and you are correct no specific shot size no specific bird species other than wildfowl why they are mentioned I don’t know as there is already something in place for there protection for Connor I don’t shop at Tesco and please don’t imply anything about the type of shooting that I participate in without asking or having no knowledge on it for the record I shoot clays until the game season then I shoot mostly driven days usually large ones I also belong to some wildfowl clubs enjoy the occasional day pigeon shooting along with shooting for field trials alongside weather and tides permitting getting out in my punt not forgetting simo days corporate events and a passion for shooting small bore shotgun’s shall I go on ? rimfire rifles for target shooting and vermin control centerfire rifles for shooting vermin larger bores for deer and larger still for hunting plains game and big game in Africa I found your remarks ending with me buying food at Tesco rather then shooting it disappointing as I can’t see how more varied my shooting could be as for you suggesting that I was taking the moral high ground 🙄I take that was a little bit out of order on your part or did you take it as a threat as the organisation that employs you wishes to adopt the high ground position and don’t want to be toppled

It’s used the most on a clay ground and no proposals to minimise the impact on anything there im beginning to think that a secret deal has already been negotiated with the cpsa as they have yet to comment on the matter

Could you be kind enough to enlighten us to what specific birds are ingesting it who conducted the research and a baseline on it would be useful information what size shot ? sub lethal impact? If you mean wounded or pricked birds that happens with any medium if you mean lead poisoning say so I appreciate no data can be accurate or useful in the last few years since the onset of bird flu and the number of deaths caused by it

Sadly we’re a world apart on this any game I shoot I eat what it’s shot with isn’t a issue to me along with a lot of others most of us don’t need to find a outlet for hundreds of pheasants or partridge at the end of the day it’s pretty obvious that the problem is the big shoots don’t have the infrastructure in place to handle process and sell on the quantity that they shoot this occurs because they make the money from the shooting not from the shot game ( a by product of the day) now in the last four years I haven’t noticed any increase in the advertising of game meat or anyone advertising to buy it in any quantity perhaps it’s the area I’m located maybe other members will say different 🤔 now I’m not sure about this but if you hatch a chick rear it and grow it on then kill it for the table it’s farmed not wild doesn't matter if it is a chicken or a pheasant

Of course it’s sustainable the biggest shoots buy in millions of birds eggs chicks poults very few rear there own there hatched in incubator reared under lamps until there big enough to go outside then when they have feathered up ( poults there taken out to the shoots and put in the release pens I would say it’s highly unlikely that they will have even been on ground that has been shot over until that point most driven shooting is feed out and drive the birds back so realistically you shouldn’t be shooting into the pen at the end of the season the game covers that you have shot towards are usually ploughed and re planted in the spring so that shot will be out of reach the big shoots are a commercial entity and this fiasco about selling game meat is really about making it justifiable for the big corporate shoots

Approximately how many cartridges do you think your team of 8/10 fire on a day Id guess 5/600 on a morning clay shooting the same team would shoot 800/1000 where does the most damage to flora and fauna occur the area you shoot game 8 times a year or the area you shoot clay’s just a thought 😊

There’s quite a difference in game shot with lead compared to steel like you I eat all my bag and probably someone else’s also find homes for many more birds I’m very inclined to agree 🙄 however we all know that the profit is in the bag not the game meat on a big commercial shoot

No problem getting rid of it then without wasting it how much more has been sold by the shoots that opted for voluntary transition away from lead and has it affected the market price?

Surely the code of good shooting practice should in part say don’t shoot more game than you can easily dispose of on the day and have a good outlet for any surplus

No thanks it was you that was interested I know what it involves as you could see from my other post farming practice has changed so anything’s a waste of time As for lead I never volunteered for anything so I’ll stick with it thank you for as long as it’s legal or until there’s a affordable alternative for my 410

That’s some great stuff you’re doing there it’s on my list of things to do fortunately have some wet ground that’s appropriate just need a imaganive machine operator and hire a big machine thanks for posting

Go to photo library on your phone (iPhone) select the picture (one ) it should tell you the size and give a option to reduce Or send the picture to someone on watsapp save the watsapp picture it’ll be the right size or go to the next option take a picture and it’ll give the option to use picture or discard sorry about the picture had to do it to make sure it was correct mid you have a different phone sorry for giving you useless information oops see your sorted now 👍