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  1. Is that what you reckon it would be spent on or your suggestion as to what it could be spent on?

    It seems a good suggestion,doesn't it? ( read your 'reckon' as 'suggest'. My sincerest apologies )

  2. Did the same not happen during the Brexit campaign when Farage said tha5t money that went to the EU would be used for the NHS (remember the bus?) .

    A lot of ignorant stupid folk fell for that huge lie as well.

     

     

    Unless I am wrong? If the UK were not paying the money we were compelled to pay into the EU, that money would stay in the U.K. And be available for use in the UK...............so if not the NHS? what do you reckon it will be used for?

     

    How about some decent infrastructure?

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    And theirs me thinking it was the little people that had spoken against the political elite of westminster, or is that another false claim.... :rolleyes:

    No,that was the Scottish independence referendum.

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    No you mentioned the bus. That was a very specific allegation. You were wrong. NF was nothing to do with that ad campaign.

     

    The day I believe anything that issues forth from the wet left rag that is the Mirror is the day I'll start batting for the other side.

     

    The only games of lie and deceive come from those in the EU with their collective snouts firmly embedded in the trough.

    OK, fair enough.I wasn't completely right there. But you have to admit that NF wherever he spoke was going on about how the money could be spend on our own services and institutions instead of paying it into the EU.He might have not lead the campaign,but to many people he was the face of the campaign and believed everything he said.and that's what the majority voted on. Now we'll see what will bloom from this now NF and the other clown BJ have jumped ship.
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    You might want to fact check that. Nigel was on record saying that in his opinion, the leave campaign made an error of judgement with that bus thing.

     

    Remember Nigel was NOT part of the official leave champagne.

     

     

    I think the loon drank a wee bit too much of the stuff when he was spouting his drivel. :lol:

  6. The trouble is the average Scott is isolated from the big picture, often living in small rural communities, and constantly bombarded by Nationalist propaganda. I have repeated this many times on here but my elderly aunt in Langholm was told by a campaigner during the independence referendum that if they got independence the SNP would double her pension. SHE BELIEVED IT! and she voted accordingly.

     

    How many more like her are there? If you are going to tell fibs tell big ones appears to be their motto

     

    Did the same not happen during the Brexit campaign when Farage said that money that went to the EU would be used for the NHS (remember the bus?) .

    A lot of ignorant stupid folk fell for that huge lie as well.

    I wonder why England is so desperate to keep Scotland in the union...

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    You live in SCOTLAND ,which has a leadership doing its damnedest to break away from the UK for some strange reason.

    When Ms Krankie eventually gets her way,let me know how that works out for you.

     

     

    So you left Holland ,with its far better economy and standard of living,to come to this isolationist ,down in the doldrums island?

    You like the British way of life? Make your mind up pal!

    Finally ,I assume when you were in the Dutch army,the Brits you met were BAOR personnel ?

    What were these Jack Russels doing there ?

     

    Mostly drinking and ******** :) . The ones I met were Parachute Regiment. Absolutely bonkers but great guys.

    Anyway, I think a few things get pulled out of context here. I never said it is that bad here in Britain, every place has its good and bad things.

    I was just comparing Britain's economy to a country not even half the size of it where the smaller country has for the majority better numbers economically.

    So I only pointed out that Britain's economy is not that great to say F it ,we're going it alone, especially when it gets drained by,for instance, a faulty benefits system .

    But please don't get your knickers in a twist, I love you really. ;)

     

    P.S I'm not an economist or try to be one. I just hope that in a couple of years time I get proven I was so wrong.

     

    Thank you!

  8. Genuine question, why if the UK is very much behind Holland etc in standard of living / quality of life did you leave to come live here?

     

    I wonder as I was browsing other countries earlier just out of interest, I think Norway was voted number 1 and Australia number 2.

    It was the weather that drew me to Scotland!

    Seriously, my partner is Scottish and it was more practical for me to quit my job in NL and move over here than her quit hers and move over there.

    Let there be no mistake, I like the British and the British way of life and before I moved here I made friends with quite a few during my time in the Dutch army.

  9. If I moved to Holland I don't think I'd have joined a Dutch shooting forum and belittled their country and choice of voting.

    The door didn't slam when you left did it ?

    I never intended to belittle anybody or anything. I love living here! I'm just trying to reason the pros and cons of leaving the EU and state some facts and comparisons. But then somebody's arrogance kicks in..

  10. This one, I was highlighting the Netherlands buried their head in the sand when the nazi came marauding across Europe in the build up to ww2, the Netherlands stated they were neutral as they had during ww1 hoping the nazis would again leave them alone, they didn't and invaded anyway, the Netherlands surrender on the first day, I'm highlighting that the UK doesn't role over when others try to bully us.

     

    Ahh.. Ye Olde Chestnut again. Have you even researched this my friend?

    I agree the Dutch government was very naive in those days, but then again Chamberlain thought he could do business with Hitler.

    Britain just had the luck not to be attached to mainland Europe,or we're all be speaking Deutsch now.

     

    And if you question Dutch bravery, have you ever heard of the Raid on the Medway? You're :welcomeani:. But we're drifting off..

  11. It's a bit like that night of un-protected sex---- are you going to catch something nasty/ unwanted pregnancy or come away ( no pun intended) with pleasurable feelings/memories

     

    Aye, I've noticed Britain has quite a culture in gambling. But you're right, we'll have to live with whatever comes from this.

  12. What I was getting at with comparing the UK's economical figures vs the Dutch is that for a country so much bigger than the Netherlands, the UK is not faring that well really when the Netherlands trumps the UK in quite a few fields of business, oil ,pharmaceuticals and electronics to name but a few.

    The way I see it is that we we're just crawling out of the last recession and now just dive into a new one voluntarily, and the working man is bearing the brunt yet again.

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    Danger-Mouse, on 07 Jan 2017 - 7:30 PM, said:snapback.png

     

    The following export product groups represent the highest dollar value in UK global shipments during 2015. Also shown is the percentage share each export category represents in terms of overall exports from United Kingdom.

    Machines, engines, pumps: US$63.9 billion (13.9% of total exports)

    Gems, precious metals: $53 billion (11.5%)

    Vehicles: $50.7 billion (11%)

    Pharmaceuticals: $36 billion (7.8%)

    Oil: $33.2 billion (7.2%)

    Electronic equipment: $29 billion (6.3%)

    Aircraft, spacecraft: $18.9 billion (4.1%)

    Medical, technical equipment: $18.4 billion (4%)

    Organic chemicals: $14 billion (3%)

    Plastics: $11.8 billion (2.6%)

    Aircraft and spacecraft were the fastest-growing among the top 10 export categories, up 18.2% for the 5-year period starting in 2011.

    In second place for improving export sales vehicles which were up 10.2% led by cars and work trucks.

    UK pharmaceuticals posted the third-fastest gain in value at 8.4%.

    Oil led the decliners down by -49.8%.

     

    Exports outside the EU are a total of 53%, obviously the remaining 47% go to the EU. (almost ironic figures if you think about it).

    Here are the Netherlands exports. Now you have to consider 65 million in the UK to 17 million people in the Netherlands. Is the UK really doing well?

     

    The following export product groups represent the highest dollar value in Dutch global shipments during 2015. Also shown is the percentage share each export category represents in terms of overall exports from the Netherlands.

    1. Machines, engines, pumps: US$80.3 billion (14.1% of total exports)
    2. Oil: $74.4 billion (13.1%)
    3. Electronic equipment: $73.5 billion (13%)
    4. Pharmaceuticals: $28.3 billion (5%)
    5. Medical, technical equipment: $25.3 billion (4.5%)
    6. Plastics: $23.6 billion (4.2%)
    7. Vehicles: $21.4 billion (3.8%)
    8. Organic chemicals: $19.2 billion (3.4%)
    9. Iron and steel: $12.7 billion (2.2%)
    10. Live trees and plants: $9.3 billion (1.6%)

    Pharmaceuticals represent the fastest-growing among the top 10 export categories, up 79.2% for the 5-year period starting in 2011.

    According to these numbers the UK, compared to a tiny country like the Netherlands is a very small player in the world of exports.

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    The following export product groups represent the highest dollar value in UK global shipments during 2015. Also shown is the percentage share each export category represents in terms of overall exports from United Kingdom.

    Machines, engines, pumps: US$63.9 billion (13.9% of total exports)

    Gems, precious metals: $53 billion (11.5%)

    Vehicles: $50.7 billion (11%)

    Pharmaceuticals: $36 billion (7.8%)

    Oil: $33.2 billion (7.2%)

    Electronic equipment: $29 billion (6.3%)

    Aircraft, spacecraft: $18.9 billion (4.1%)

    Medical, technical equipment: $18.4 billion (4%)

    Organic chemicals: $14 billion (3%)

    Plastics: $11.8 billion (2.6%)

    Aircraft and spacecraft were the fastest-growing among the top 10 export categories, up 18.2% for the 5-year period starting in 2011.

    In second place for improving export sales vehicles which were up 10.2% led by cars and work trucks.

    UK pharmaceuticals posted the third-fastest gain in value at 8.4%.

    Oil led the decliners down by -49.8%.

     

    Exports outside the EU are a total of 53%, obviously the remaining 47% go to the EU. (almost ironic figures if you think about it).

    Here are the Netherlands exports. Now you have to consider 65 million in the UK to 17 million people in the Netherlands. Is the UK really doing well?

     

    The following export product groups represent the highest dollar value in Dutch global shipments during 2015. Also shown is the percentage share each export category represents in terms of overall exports from the Netherlands.

    1. Machines, engines, pumps: US$80.3 billion (14.1% of total exports)
    2. Oil: $74.4 billion (13.1%)
    3. Electronic equipment: $73.5 billion (13%)
    4. Pharmaceuticals: $28.3 billion (5%)
    5. Medical, technical equipment: $25.3 billion (4.5%)
    6. Plastics: $23.6 billion (4.2%)
    7. Vehicles: $21.4 billion (3.8%)
    8. Organic chemicals: $19.2 billion (3.4%)
    9. Iron and steel: $12.7 billion (2.2%)
    10. Live trees and plants: $9.3 billion (1.6%)

    Pharmaceuticals represent the fastest-growing among the top 10 export categories, up 79.2% for the 5-year period starting in 2011.

  15. Sorry for playing devil's advocate here, but only JCBs and aerospace can't make up for 65 million people. Things like the metal industry are already being sold off to foreign businesses. I think the UK is a bit like a Jack Russell, i.e it thinks it's bigger than it is.

    All this export you talk about wandringstar, where is the majority going to? Inside or outside of Europe? A lot of companies will leave the UK because they don't want to end up on a economical secluded island.

    All I can think of is rising prices of products and the UK having to sell their products outside the EU for a higher price because of export taxes and transport costs.

  16. I respect your views but I think you are talking rubbish, or do you have a crystal ball?

    No I don't have a crystal ball pal, and nobody does in the case of Brexit. I'm just skeptical about the whole thing and I just hope I'm totally wrong. Time will tell ...

  17. I'm one of those migrants that came to Britain 6 years ago. I'm originally from the Netherlands, so I didn't come here for economical reasons (my partner is Scottish) and I have noticed that the UK as a whole is in many ways poorer than the Netherlands. We are already geographically an island and I'm afraid we'll become that economically as well. In my opinion the Brexiteers jumped into the deep end without even knowing if they could swim. Doing business with the EU countries will become much more difficult and dearer and if we do, we still have to abide by the EU standards and regulations. The only thing I can think of that Britain produces and successfully exports is whisky, all the rest can be produced by any other country. The only way I can see a successful Brexit is that all countries step out of the EU and it stops to exist, otherwise I'm afraid the UK will become even more poor than it already is.

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    I don't want to get into a spat with you, but "aggressive sometimes" isn't an excuse; If you choose to walk your dog where you know there are dogs off the lead, then yes, as a responsible dog owner you should muzzle it if shows a tendency to other dogs in his space.

    I for one go to places where I can let my dog off the lead. Dogs are sociable creatures and by nature will approach each other.

     

    Like you we all have a story, and where I used to live there was a fella who used to walk around with an Akita who would maul anything that came within reach, I don't see that as acceptable because he's on his lead! And I'm by no means suggesting your dog is anything like that!!

     

    In short, my view is teach it manners or if that's beyond you, muzzle it.

    So going by your wicked opinion it would be a bit like the raped woman should go to jail but not the rapist because she was wearing high heels and a short skirt and the rapist just had a bad childhood.

    Again, and this will be my last say about; I know my dog. He is not aggressive at all, in fact he is as soft as butter(unless you enter my house uninvited) but he doesn't always get along with other male dogs. That's why I have him on a lead and under my control. So if a yappy Spaniel or whatever who's off the lead thinks it's ok to go up to him and growl etc, then it is at first the Spaniel's owner at fault and secondly the Spaniel himself. My dog is a dog with a dogs' behaviour and I will never ever punish him by muzzling him because some other dog owner can't take responsibility and have his dog on a lead like I have mine!

    If I have to put my dog on a lead, so does everybody else, simple!

    Is this really so hard to comprehent and do people still see GSD's as the devil dogs and still have that biased opinion?

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