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I do not regard not rejoining the CPSA as running away,I just want no part of it. I live in Cumbria which has no registered sporting ground at all if you like trap then you are quite well catered for. On a Sunday we travel to Lancashire normally to go to a decent sporting shoot ie 100 birders because at some of the local shoots it takes 2 hours to shoot 30 clays. There is an excellent ground 10 miles away but it's only open on a Saturday and I work shifts. I hope that the CPSA AGM goes well for once and don't forget to put your points of view in writing in good time. Could a region organise an EGM? I would think not there is too much apathy in shooters. Me included now. I think that we should have business minded officials in charge of the CPSA not enthusiastic amateurs who seem to fritter money away on various new projects which are not needed. I do not wish this website to end up like Dennis' one

Peter I presume rightly or wrongly that you are a relatively newcomer to shooting? Over the years I have seen people come and go who were running the CPSA when they left there was nearly always a payout which the membership had to pay. The staff turnover in the last five years is ridiculous and that includes the move to Bisley. I have never heard of them helping a ground with a noise problem, I believe that they were forced into the fray to help at the A1 shooting ground at Barnet. I think there are about 5000 registered shooters the other members are subsidising these. How much do you think the subs would be if 15,000 members left. Just what use do you think any organisation would be if the Government decided to ban all guns tomorrow. No I have had enough of subsidising others. There is no need for sarcasm regarding shooting anybody I have shot 50 years and have never been dangerous with a gun of any description and I was an RCO for 7 years. How good is your safety record because I have no hesitation about pulling any shooter up about unsafe gun handling.

Cat I do agree with your last paragraph,that you should belong to an organisation of some sort and as I have not shot at live birds I joined the CPSA. Over the years that I was in the CPSA and I still am till the end of the month, I must have paid at least £1000 in subs and apart from a magazine have received nothing. No I've had enough.

My CPSA membership number was 27572 till I did not renew my direct debit this month. I have been a member since I received my first SGC and personally for me ,they have done nothing. I have only ever shot registered twice since I first started shooting as I am not bothered about competing against other shooters a great deal. But I do enjoy 100 bird sporting on a Sunday morning with a group of like minded friends. When I found out that my household policy covered me regarding insurance I decided not to renew my membership. Whats the point of giving money to someone else.

David Why do you hate lead so much? You sound as if you have a personal objection towards shooting with lead and I wonder how BASC members are judging your attitude towards this debate. Steel shot is not very popular at clay grounds now and more and more grounds are banning it. If we go back to the begining I mentioned that BASC wants to ban lead and now you are leading us down that very road with your attitude. I thought that you were on the side of your members but you sound just like an anti who is trying to destroy shooting as it is.

How can anyone argue about facts like that What a brilliant post and I agree with you 100% about using lead shot,it's much more humane to kill wildlife cleanly than wounding with steel. If lead is ever banned some types of clayshooting will never be the same again either. I grew up in a house with lead pipes,played with lead soldiers,kept air rifle pellets in my mouth for a quick reload filled my motorbike with 5 star petrol and all the rest of the so called dangerous substances that we were allowed to use---and I'm still here. I reckon it's all a con---just like global warming

My apologies to dustyfox for going off track. I will repeat what I and others have posted on here. If you have household insurance you do not need to give money to any other organisation to be insured to go shooting. I have never heard of the CPSA defending anyone in court. They also did nothing when The A1 shooting ground was threatened with closure due to a noise problem. But BASC did a sterling job at Carlisle Crown Court defending a friend on a trumped up firearms charge. The "mistaken" police officer kept his job though!

It might be toxic but it makes a much better kill than steel on any quarry.

I might have been wrong regarding BASC's reaction regarding the handgun ban but we all own GUNS and we should all look after each other, Here is a link regarding the lead shot ban http://www.claysporting.com/index.php?name...sc&start=15 Here's another http://www.nfa.ca/files/wfsaleadsymposiumbrochure.pdf http://www.unep-aewa.org/meetings/eN/mop/m...review_rev1.pdf http://randd.defra.gov.uk/Document.aspx?Do...25_6178_FRP.pdf

I have been in the CPSA for over 25 years but I decided not to renew at the end of the month. I cannot see the point of being in it when I do not shoot registered clays any more. There is all this talk of join an organisation for the insurance etc:. If you are a householder and you have insurance for your property you will already have public and personal liability insurance. I rang my company today to check and on the policy it quotes in what is not insured-"firearms,except sporting guns used for sporting purposes". So that covers you for all field sports. If you shoot clays the ground owner will have to be insured. So it's up to you if you want to waste money on joining either the CPSA or BASC who might I add they both kept their heads below the parapet and said nowt when handguns were banned. I believe that it's also common knowledge that BASC also wants a lead shot ban.

It most likely one of these http://www.alanrhone-store.com/index.php?c...7cb974a5d605ed8 Don't knock them till you try one. I do not need one but some shooters do,they also reduce recoil as well. This http://www.precisionfitstocks.com/techInfo.htm gives a lot more information.

I have been using them for about a year now and find them excellent value for money. They are £128 a thousand at Kelbrook but only £126 if you are a member. If you only want 250 they are £34.

It is most likely a weak top lever spring but it could be insufficient bite on the lock up. If you bought from a dealer I'd take it back and let them repair it. If you bought it privately it will not be that expensive to repair.

They wear the clothing to keep body movement to a minimum,special boots with a flat sole and heel are also worn. It's a lot more fun just shooting offhand but obviously it is not as accurate as a dedicated target shooter. http://www.edinkillie.co.uk/ecatalog/ahgan...oots-p-777.html

Hi, I would take it back to where you purchased it and ask them to send it back to GMK for inspection. I used to have a nickeled action Teknys and this started to rust after I sold it. The lad who bought it off me was given a new gun apart from the barrel. Beretta's are not as well made as they used to be in my opinion.

Have you ever tried 10metre air rifle? It's not easy at all and they do not use scopes. This is the size of the target http://www.marplerifleandpistolclub.org.uk...es/airtarg1.htm http://www.marplerifleandpistolclub.org.uk...res/sight01.htm http://www.marplerifleandpistolclub.org.uk...es/airgun04.htm I bet most of you would not even hit the bull.

The fault might have been caused by the magazine cap retaining plunger coming out. I would not think that it could be any thing else. I personally would have taken it back to where it was purchased from and asked them to have a look at it or send it back to GMK. I have sent you a pm.

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If I know that I can beat you and you know that I can makes it easy for me. But the situation can be reversed. Be polite and if you win try to be modest about it.

Personally I would be very careful carrying a pistol in any public place now. The response of a police confrontation could be lethal as most members of the public report sightings of people with guns. I find this rather a shame because as young lads we always had our air guns with us most of the time and nobody said anything.

http://www.basc.org.uk/media/gundog_trg_-_...y_launchers.pdf http://www.thegundogclub.co.uk/shop/traini...volvernotes.htm

Steel shot should not be shot through a choke tighter than half as it does not get deformed like lead. If your tube has sp stamped on it it's OK to use with steel. This has nothing to do with chokes but it's full of useful information for Beretta auto users. http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=101242

Ive posted this http://www.chuckhawks.com/steel_shot.htm on other websites so I might as well post it on here.

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