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It's hard to tell if it's an improvement on clip, but certainly seems to put plenty on the paper at 60-70 yards.... The obviously use a smaller pattern plate area than us over here , (turkey head as opposed to our 30" circle) but that looks as tho it would still be giving a nice even pattern at 70 yards

Looking at the pattern on that pic,is it a duplexed load? Some of the holes look different sizes

Can the tss be fired in old fixed choked guns? Or is steel proofed only?with it being much smaller shot can you still get the issues of bulging?

Yes,agree with that ,not a very even pattern,seems to be very top heavy... On the American sites there patterns with tss and small bore guns with tight chokes are unreal...

Ok, so a 1oz load of tss18 #7 has similar shot count and pellet density to a 4oz load of #AAA lead.... obviously the lead would leave a bigger wound pattern ,but the tss should pattern much better therefore giving multiple strikes... So a .410 1oz load of tss out performs a 4oz load from a 4 bore, on pattern and pellet density.... Just not on £££££?????

If I'm right in what I'm thinking a tss #7 pellet weighs slightly more than a lead #AAA pellet with 185 to ounce, where aaa is 37

At the minute I shoot #bbb through bps 10 bore with terror choke in, but if the tss18 offers a greater/ more leathul combination I don't mind buying a small bore gun to run some through.,.looking at some of the results/ testing that's been done with the stuff.....a 1oz load of #6 tss18 should be out performing a 4 bore

Thanks for that lancer, I bought the powershot cheap ,only reason I have it.... It's not something I'd buy at the full price....I'll stick to #bbb steel. I may give the tss a try out as I can see that giving a huge advantage over steel, and save it for the days when steel won't cut the mustard.👍

To get hw13 near like for like in density to steel , IV had to get #1 in hw13 and #bbb in steel.. so it's not massive difference in size.. not like tss18 would be ( not sure what # size would be in comparison to #bbb steel). How much further / better killing range does the slightly smaller but slightly heavier hw13 #1 pellet offer over the steel???? The price to me doesn't justify the slight increase it may offer, tss15 or tss18 I get, as your getting much smaller/ denser pellet to outperform steel..

This is a question to those who are clued up on ballistics, IV just been in loading room looking at things and I weighed out a few things.i know these are not the same pellet size but it's what I have to hand. Powershot /hw13 in #1 weighs 0.017 each pellet ,with 58 to the Oz Steel #BBB weighs 0.016 each pellet with 63 to oz Obviously powershot has slight edge in pellet density,but for the cost difference is it worth it? How can that slight difference in weight give much advantage over the steel? I can see the point in tss18 but not the powershot

Hia mate, my father in law is selling s410 , £500 I think, I can find out more if your interested, located barrow in Furness

👍🏻correct

I use a aya yeoman, choked 1/2 & full, had hundreds of super steel 3&4's through it, it's had up to steel #B also.wouldnt say its punchy and chokes are still same

I recently dealt with this seller, straight forward transaction, no messing about, I sent money.....he sent item, it is in full, looked after working order, nothing to worry about👍🏻

I was thinking more for home loaders

Somebody with a bit of engineering background /know how could make a few quid now if they could design and manufacture a jig to make own wads for the various calibres

Cracking thread lads, very helpful/informative👍🏻.

Thanks for that lancer,thought I was doing it wrong, on pic 12 that old farrier put on ,it looks like card cup is in other way round

Which way round does that card cup go into cartridge?

I use them in my 8 bore with steel.... Barrel still fine,

If he changes his mind and fancies a bps pump I'm going to be shifting mine

I bought 3.5 kg of Powershot at a very good price last season, I haven't loaded any up yet,but while loading up some steel few days ago, I grabbed a tub to weigh the pellets, can't remember the exact figures, but I usually load #BBB steel for my goose load... I weighed the power shot in 4.0mm and it was less in weight than BBB steel....so for the cost of it,I'd not buy it again,steel will do me for my shooting

Was out with hounds last Sunday working gorse and brambles, must of seen 40+. None were shot

That's a very smart,powerful looking dog

Thanks for that bishop👍🏻.