coastal mud hopper

I use a extrema tend to use rio steel fours found they suit me and the gun I like Remington steel cartridge's but can not get them anywhere the rio fours are good for geese and duck at the right range so just use those but each have their own choice go with what works for you best .

cook on low heat in a covered roasting tray with a big onion put inside and a beef stock cube in hot water tipped over before covering with foil cook until the breast meat just starts coming of the bone its tender and tastes great but it must be a low heat gas mk 2 it takes awhile but well worth it .

i have found the browning heavy and not as balanced as the berretta the silver pigeon was my choice the sporting one 3 inch chambers multi choke that can handle steel used it for every thing clays pigeon wildfowling fired thousands of cartridges through it still as tight as the day i bought it now for my wild fowling i use an extrema brilliant gun never jammed and have used it on the marsh since i bought it my friend bought a browning and he could not hit a barn door with it we were on the marsh he used my berretta and drop three for three with it but that's me but i have found berretta better balanced hope this helps

even for locals to join can be very difficult it was years before i managed to get to get in to a club my father died waiting i am local born and bred most of the marshes are common rights and the common right holders formed the clubs around the coast if you are not a common right holder you stand very little chance of joining and even then it is up to the committee even though people hold the right it is only for a section of marsh and only then if it states the right to wildfowl it has cost me a lot of time and money over the years but do not give up there are ways to hear about things try to get in touch with a member of a marsh you want to try out and see if he /she is willing to get you a day ticket and inform you when the conditions are favourable as can be a be ready to go if possible that is what i done for years

yes sorry but the point is on most of my area has very little beet sorry about that bit of a fopar as for geese moving about though they still head a lot further inland now than they did a few years ago looking for the beet top and some have moved roosts to talking to another wildfowler to day he recons that pink move roosts about every ten to fifteen years don't know about that though any way sorry chaps you are very right

yes I agree with you and as for thousands of acres of beet top and no geese proves my point they have moved still this is only my opinion there is still a large roost at holkham and to a lesser extent deepdale but on the fresh water marshes some still roost on the sand banks a lot have moved to other areas the geese are still about flight lines and roosts have changed as feeding patterns have changed but as we all know if they are pursued on there roosts or feeding ground they move to other areas that's why etiquette says we should not but there are some that will and do I my self only flight duck or geese so far for four trips this season I have had 5 duck and 4 greys and 2 pink you might not agree with what I say but I think that to be honest it is perhaps all these factors that we need to take in to consideration as for thornham I shot there on many a day ticket and can remember when I picked up the last day ticket with my friend who I was a guessed with the chap said this is the last one tomorrow we are doing it more for us you see. this was back I think in the early 80,s may be late 70,s I remember lots of wigeon teal even golden eye but very few pink and grays but a lot of Canada I shot a 17 pound one the tide was flooding and I had to walk all the way round to get back to where we had parked and the strap broke on my bag a struggle that was . Still back to matters the pink are still around but have moved as for the thornham thing no I do not agree that a club should displace another what should have happened is the larger one could have helped but did not just taken over not very nice. at least they could have offered the first year at lower cost to the local club and come to other arrangements for later as for threats of legal action well all I can say is How to win friends and influence people NOT

Yes I heard it to just been standing out side watch the geese come off as they fly in land they are getting to a great height forming their lines the old ganders up front with the map I live about 4 miles in land and they are still gaining height as they go over I had to go to Norwich the other day and some of the farms have lifted beet I was heading towards the 47 at lenwade that far in land I saw pink on the beet top and more dropping in these could have come from my part of the coast flight lines about right a few years ago they would be flying over my house I could sit in my front room watching television and they would drowned the sound out they could take an hour or more to pass now very few fly over as no beet top in the area I have found where beet is grown as soon as they lift it the geese are there for a couple of days then gone as it gets ploughed in unless it is to wet but nothing of the numbers that used to be around they all fly well in land in search of the beet

hi new to this site but active on others just a couple of comments kent wildfowlers have a quarter of a right which they exercise as for a club charity holding such right I reserve my judgement as for the pinks not showing as much I do not think over shooting is the problem yes some will try to shoot them out of range goose fever is a thing that I have now and again but what I think is the reason for not as many pinks is they have moved to different areas (over shooting out of range shooting disturbance I hear the cry) may be not my opinion is when the last government under mr blair was in power some people were shouting about sugar mountain and they cut sugar production so the farmers are not growing it so now as a country we import sugar from third world countries to help them (cane sugar) talk about food miles work that out so the farmers are now having to grow other crops OIL SEED RAPE just look how the country has turned yellow good for pigeon shooting well may be so much food now they are getting hard to decoy all the time so I digress so not so much sugar beet so no beet top for them to feed on they now travel a long way to feed on what beet top is left not ploughed in while out on the marsh you can watch huge flights of pink very high and as they near the coast you see them split in to 4 or 5 groups still a lot in each group fly to different roosts around the coast and this is why we are not seeing so many as some have found new roosts (yes I know shooting pressure disturbance ect) but I don't think this the only reason they are having to look for their favourite food and move to find it still that's my opinion might not be every body's but I had to say this cheers