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Rupert10

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  1. If that is a training term then the Bazooka bit is probably not necessary Back is normally ample. Once the dog releases and waits "Back"
  2. Use whatever it's happy to retrieve. I've never known a keen retriever refuse to get enthusiastic about a tennis ball, for instance. If you say 50 retrieves or 25 lefts and 25 rights, of a tennis ball over any given period of time, is a marathon retrieving session then... Nobody is saying put the stopwatch on and time the dog over distances. It's simple, right-back to hand, left-back to hand. As long as he's aware of a following retrieve. The dog is not a pup and I take it the owner knows the dogs limits. Personally, and honestly, I have never, ever, known a decent retrieving gundog that isn't motivated and excited by seen doubles of a tennis ball. Blinds, in my opinion, always enthuse a retrieving dog even more regards retrieving however the object of the exercise is not the going out to retrieve with gusto, we have to assume the dog is keen to retrieve in the first place. The object of the exercise is to get a once perfect on the release dog to relearn that release= another retrieve. The simplest way is to show it there's another by throwing one left and one right. Back with one, there you go masssa, send me for the other. Repetition of this works for gaining a delivery quickly. Just to edit- That was why I mentioned in an earlier post " use dummies tennis balls and see if you get the same deal"
  3. Repetition is the name of the game but the dog has to want to give it over. Repetition of the release command, especially as the dog is already ignoring it, will only create repetition of the thing you don't want. The dog refusing to oblige. That will ingrain even further the dogs reluctance to hand the retrieve over. Put him in a situation where he can repeat the desired behavior over and over again. Not the behavior you don't want. He has to WANT to hand the retrieve over. He will when he knows there's another coming as soon as he releases the first retrieve so try the doubles. Make them interesting for him but not so he fails. You might have to end up trying this with cold game as well before trying warm fresh stuff.
  4. This isn't a pup but use the amount happy with so long as it's enough to reboot him. BB-it is a delivery problem. The problem is he's reluctant to deliver or let go. My guess is it might have been that he's had a lot of runners recently or returned a lot of lively birds recently or it could be a genuine reluctance to hand the item over. Try dummies or tennis balls and see if you get the same deal. If so, and he's a keen retriever, he will quickly hand over any training item knowing there's another retrieve awaiting. Double memory or seen retrieves and high numbers of them. Is he damaging game?
  5. All this talk of collapse being due to low blood sugar. If LBS is the cause, is it not simply easier to carry some sugar in a small bag and feed little and often? Why all the fancy and expensive nutritional bars of this and that?
  6. What about something like a double decker or a half a bag of revels? (small bag not the family size bag, obviously).
  7. A friend of mine said the same about a bitch he once owned. Steady as a rock until the hormones and pups came along. He was sure it was the hormonal thing that kicked the behavior off. Minstrel tension he said it was. Who knows? He did say the yellow ones are nuttier than the black ones though and to stay well away from the chocolate ones. Personally, I'm not sure it's as black and white as all that.
  8. Is there no way you could get the bar maid to come out to the car to serve you? It's an open top vehicle. I have found most of the bar maids these days only too willing to oblige and go well out of their way to keep a customer happy. Where there is a will there is a way.Try and get the space in the car park of the pup that is nearest to the window, that way you can watch the football as well while you eat you dinner and down a pint?
  9. Is common sense and understanding not the thing missing here? How a field trial dog is prepared to compete will be different to the way a regular shooting dog is prepared? No? The feeding patterns and amounts will vary considerably as will the amount of time training and resting between training.
  10. Would have thought a dog that hunts in short bursts in a trial would be less likely to need extra fuel for stamina. Reading through some old posts over the last few days there seems to be a common misconception that good dogs are dogs that can hunt all day long on a shoot.Quite the contrary would be the case in the wild.A wild Dingo (such as the one cocker boy owned, of the curley coat duck hunting variety) wouldn't last long if it had to hunt all day for food before finding some.No, dogs/wild cats, are not designed to be long distance atheletes (apart from the likes of the husky, a dog that hunted in the wild on vast empty spaces of hundreds of miles for food, often in packs). Sometimes ignorance and pride can play a part in why some of these shooting dogs are breaking down. As cb says. Feed and water the dog correctly. Exercise accordingly and equally, rest the dog accordingly.
  11. You might be right there cocker boy. Thanks for your input.
  12. Lol. Nothing worse than getting your Gagarins mixed up with your Gellers. I think Gagarin did bend spoons as well you know? In the Apollo he showed how to do it because the gravity was missing?
  13. No it was Gagarin. Gellar was the first man in outer space. Wasn't he? Anyway, which ever one it was he was no spoon bender. Minton beat him all hands down. The fella turned up with his own spoon but he put it down on the table at the fate. Ethel De La Vere (our Mayors housekeeper) picked his spoon up by mistake and mixed it up with all the others on the table. She passed him a proper Sheffield Steel spoon to bend but he couldn't. He said the planets had to be aligned for it to work or something of that nature. His face went beetroot red trying to bend the thing.lol. Anyway. I placed one end of the spoon in Mintons mouth and held on to the other. Then I gave the order. Where's ya tail ! One bent spoon. One rosette.
  14. Who mentioned him being at school with me? You should read the posts. Please. He visited the fate me and Minton were spoon bending at.
  15. You cant be refering to me cocker boy.Me and Minton (my hienze 57 when I was a teenager) got 1st prize and a rosette when we entered the bend the spoon competition some years back. It was when uri Gagarin was just beginning his career. It was just a bit of fun at a local fate but between us we conquered the world that day. Still got the spoon and rosette.
  16. Is there any point in me noting the suggestions of the PW collective? Only asking what good reliable ESS line there is out there. Was not looking to conquer the universe.lol.
  17. Lol cocker boy. Yes if only I had Digweed, Shumacher, Tiger Woods and the like on hand lol. Bet they could turn a real old duffer like me into a force to be reckoned with. Names like that can very likely put the shine on any old ****. Lol.
  18. Anyway,thank you all so much for your very kind help. Notes made.
  19. So it's the Hollydrive then as mentioned numerous times.
  20. Quite. Tried and tested over a period of time. Generations. The Kennel Club affix is of little relevance to me. It serves only as a tool to trace family history.The problem I have is with identifying a decent line of dogs/bitches from names only. Therefore, a reputable 'line', with a reputable proven track record regarding quality, is all I can ask for.The answer to the question has been a number of names but without any kind of explanation as to why or how. Is there anything at all worth noting when viewing a 'working line' pedigree apart from the obvious black named dogs and red named dogs that might shed a little more light?
  21. Ok. To put it another way. I'm looking for a line that has not been diluted with mediocrity and from a breeder that has used common sense and experience rather than the "@ fancy name" scenario.
  22. You will end up on a register mate.
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