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3 minutes ago, holloway said:
Sadly the ignorance of the work Basc do is astounding well done for highlighting it .
well said !!
next time your at the game fair have a look at the shotgun coaching line, all the coaches on there doing scores of lessons a day, all work for free. 3 days hard graft to get new people into shooting! that's just one department
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It's refreshing to see some support for BASC on here I had given up commenting and contributing , although i have written some accounts of good days pigeon shooting and never put them on.
The stand at the BSS was very busy with staff and volunteers given weekend time to help existing and new members with all sorts of questions, i am very proud to be part of it.
which ever organisation you choose, there is no doubt we all need help keeping our shooting alive.
Times they are a changing
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if your a Basc member use the panel of GPs its a good service, lots of people at the shooting show asking about it . A lot of GP surgeries wont do it now
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Archie was brilliant!
John Batley learnt a lot from him, went to a talk by John years ago at Moreton Morrall college. Place was packed, he said that he only ever started with 3 dead birds as decoys. that's all you need!
a guy at the back put his hand up and asked "How do you get the three?"
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I was there from Wednesday, busy show, loads of people about. all good feedback from the ones I asked.
The weather helped, bit of trouble at night but otherwise a great event
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I will be there for 3 days down at the shooting line, was a good show last year, need to keep these shows going. good way to get together with like minded
people. great atmosphere around the different areas
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Hi all
I have been asked if I can get 100 pigeon for a scout event in a couple of weeks time, they want to learn to dress and cook them. I have a fair few in the freezer but probably looking for another 50 ish. the organizers will pick them up, so if anybody has some spare it would be appreciated.
they have offered to pay but, I wont charge for mine as its for the kids. so if anybody has any within maybe 30 miles of Coventry would be appreciated
can PM me if it helps
thanks
Flycoy
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Hi All
very interesting post thanks, always a discussion to be had, I have been lucky to have the chance of coaching a lot of youngest over the past few years. Most have Parents or Grandparents starting them off, as a result of the etiquette on shoot days where they have beaten from an early age, they come to me as very well mannered, respectful and often smartly dressed youngsters.
They are so keen and learn very quickly, a lot turning into good shots on their own merit, with a little guidance from me. I will bump into them at game fairs and they will come up to me and say hello, telling me how well they have been doing or that they have shot their first goose! At last years Game Fair a 18yr old came upto me, i hadnt seen for a few years to tell me he had been to game keepers Collège and now had a job and digs on a big shoot, thanking me for all the help I had given him. good job i had shooting glasses on so he couldn't see the tears in my eyes!!
The shooting fraternity is a good start for youngsters, giving them a good grasp of safety, respect for the countryside and to respect other people. How many other pastimes would do that.?
With your guidance as grandparents or parents they will hopefully be the ones to keep our beloved shooting going, i have a couple of grandchildren now too young to start yet but looking forward to taking them out if they want to go.
Keep taking them out and keep safe
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Hi all
this may of been discussed many times before.
anybody know a game dealer in the midlands area that will take woodies fresh or frozen please.
thanks.
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Well, wish you all the best, feelings, likes and dislikes change as we age. as long as your happy with the stall you set, thats all that really matters.
might have to do that DIY though !!
take care and thanks for the advice you have given, stay safe
Flycoy
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Been there today, looking very well laid out, gonna be a good show I think
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Evening All,
we have a lot of it by us , acres and acres. its sown and covered with a biodegradable polythene, by the time it breaks through its too big for the crows to pull up.
I think our local farmer is growing it for animal feed so its cut late in the summer and they use a tractor with two spinning disc blades on the front which throws it everywhere. Its then picked up and clamped into bails.
we wont get any pigeon interest until its cut then they and crows etc will hammer the field until its all cleared up.
if any strips are being left for game cover, you can get a good mid field hide in the edge of it and be unseen.
make sure your out of it before the machine comes back!!!😄
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11 hours ago, CJR said:
Hi all, thought I‘d put my two pence worth after reading an old post about potential cross-breeds between pigeons.
Wood pigeons do cross with Ferals now and then. Seen them in Hyde park and Crystal Palace park, but never out in the countryside. Smaller than a wood pigeon, with dark banded wing bars, but a white neck patch. Shocked me when I first saw one. It had the slow caution of a wood pigeon, but patterns of a Feral.
All shooters should be able to recognise Stock Doves, Ferals and wood pigeons. All are different shapes with a difference in flying styles. Stock Doves are like the Spitfires of the sky, agile, stubby winged, extra sharp vision. Ferals thinner, longer wings and both tend to fly close together, almost colliding. Both even float with wings held at a sharp 'V' shape - something a woody never does.
Ferals are the town and city ancestors of coastal Rock Doves, which are very much protected. By the way, in North Kent here, I'm starting to see Ravens on a regular basis, be careful you don't swing through one and drop it. Generally large size, long head and neck length and V shaped tail (V outward, not inward like a Kite).
Best wishes all.
good post thanks
yep quarry ID is important, a few Ravens by me too
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Seems you all know each other might be a good idea when it suits you to bring the kids along on the same day, they can have some fun and we could have an unhealthy breakfast then get the kids shooting with each other.
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That's great he did really well to shoot 5, sounds like he is gonna cost you some money !!
nice little gun the Yildiz very light.
happy decoying !!
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Yeah he is a bit young at the mo
Just let me know when your ready and will take a look.
thanks for the replies. Stay safe.
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Sorry Jim.
just seen this reply.
I work independently and use Kibworth as a base because it is such a good place for coaching and very receptive to novices.
next time I am there I can have a look at your son if it helps and get him started.
always happy to help and give advice to novices as they are our future in shooting. if I am there working anyway I can spare some time to help.
8 is a good age to start but can help younger kids, normally helping guide the 410 to the target with them but they love to break clays.
Most dads or moms would like to do it themselves but I find the kids listen to a coach more and don’t blame us if it doesn’t go to plan. ! I have all the gear to help pad them out and ensure they don’t feel any discomfort. I often get asked or told to use the 12 bore side by side because “my dad and his dad used it so he will use it “but I refuse and insist on the right size gun for them, they will hit over 50% most times.
to see I young lad or girl walking away telling their mom and dad what they have hit with a empty cartridge and a clay in their hand full of confidence and pride means the world to me. That’s what it is all about , not always the money as some would think.
BAsc run regular young shots days in the summer usually. Very cheap child care and great fun for the kids , shooting etc and meeting new friends.
When we are back into it. Will help if I can.
Thanks All stay safe.
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no time limit on it just let me know
Happy to help the kids get started
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no prob, message me when you think she is ready and will arrange a day when I am at the ground and we can sort.
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Ocarsdad
think you are leicester way, when things are back to normal bring her to Kibworth and if you pay for the clays and carts I will help her along with a free lesson when she is a bit bigger. got to encourage the kids. if that suits you
Flycoy
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Good to see.
my daughter was the same. Son wasn't that bothered. keep her keen if you can. trouble is they get bored and cold quickly.
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On 22/02/2021 at 17:47, Northern Gunner said:
I couldn't agree more with you Webber, I've been running a club in North Yorkshire now for many years and we started off with a couple of manual traps and have now built it up to nearly 50 Automatic Traps and before Coronavirus Restrictions, we were getting up to 150 guns through on our fortnightly Sunday Sporting Shoots.
I would not have been unable to achieve this without a dedicated few who help with maintaining the equipment and assisting setting up and clearing up after the shoot. Most of the people who turn up to shoot think that it all just happens without any graft going on behind the scenes.
Sometimes you scratch your head in disbelieve at the attitude of some shooters when they complain because you ask them not to take extra clays or to pick up their empty cases after them. On the other hand though, you feel its all worthwhile when people thank you for the day and compliment the shoot on the standard of targets on offer or a thankyou letter off a charity the members have raised money to support.
We do it because we are passionate about our sport.
Northern Gunner
i have a friend who has just sold a good ground near me, when he put Claymate in after years of having just score cards, he got some real nasty abuse on social media. obviously from the bad counting members. luckily more good members than bad
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8 hours ago, Salopian said:
To me this is an irritating subject that crops up regularly on nearly all shooting forums .
It amazes me how many clayshooters will book a lesson with a 'top shot' costing in the region of £100- £200 per session and these 'experts' NEVER check eye dominance to start .
It is such a simple test and is the foundation to good shooting .
JDog your comments are also disappointing , do not accept that you will never shoot well again , get yourself correctly diagnosed and a solution sorted and then practice and shoot better than ever before . It is a known fact that eye dominance can alter with age related factors , stress and tiredness, always be aware what your eyes are seeing and how your brain is computing this sensory input. Good shooting and enjoy .
Also forget the tosh that you must shoot with both eyes open, you do not have to , there are many very exceptionally good 'one eyed' shooters that do very well every time that they shoot .
Shooting is a skill that has to be learned , honed , and continually practiced.
One good lesson will cost less than all the clays & cartridges that you miss and will be very good value for money .
totally agree with the above, dead on, I met a married couple a few years back, who were at the end of their tether with shooting, especially the lady. they had spent a lot of money at a top clay ground having joint lessons. They were struggling to say the least, when I asked them about eye dom they hadn't got a clue and after 6 lessons they had never been checked or asked! they were both strong left eye dominant, shooting from the right shoulder both eyes open!!!
closed the left eye and hit 9 out of 10, both went off happy and still shooting
eye dom is a very interesting subject, diagnosed correctly it can be sorted, but is very often not
good discussion though
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chrs88 where are you based ?
Do you trust BASC
in General Shooting Matters
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When I joined PW 8 years ago I would enjoy reading the posts about pigeon shooting days and tips. Maybe i didnt see the negativity then or perhaps it wasnt there. The lack of knowledge from the bashers of what Basc does for shooting, young shots, ladies shooting, stalking, wildfowling etc, astounds me! The same few names knock whatever appears on here and its not the Forum I joined. i appreciate the support from others for an organisation i am very proud to be part of but this forum is no longer enjoyable and time is better spent chasing pigeon or getting a newbie into shooting
for that reason I am bowing out of the forum, wish you all the best, stay safe and well
Flycoy