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  1. 1 hour ago, marsh man said:

    sadly like many of the Norfolk game dealers they have all packed up and are no longer trading , as far as I know we have only got one dealer that serve the whole of the county , times have certainly changed .     MM

    Thanks largely or entirely to OVER regulation. 

  2. On 13/03/2024 at 20:14, Conor O'Gorman said:

    BASC is supporting farmers in Wales in challenging restrictive agri-environmental proposals and calling for payments for the control of deer, squirrel, mink, carrion crow and fox.

    I'll bet they are, all leading to compulsory training  lead by...you guest it. 

  3. 19 hours ago, lksopener said:

    the PDS one might well be accredited by Lantra but means next to nothing to a number of big organisations and isn’t nationally recognised. 

    Who are the big authorities may i ask, he just wants to go stalking and i believe it recognise by the police 

  4. 10 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

    I imagine there would be differences in the 'commission' paid to the named company, and probably to the various 'small print' details like the excesses, allowed drivers ages and multitude of other things that may or may not be included (car hire, onward travel, overseas cover, breakdown cover, windscreen cover etc.).

    It's hard to compare because no two policies are alike (despite being with the same underwriters).  I may be wrong but I believe the NFU have their own 'underwriters' in house.

    Some insurers specialise in certain risk types such as younger drivers, high performance cars, over 50's, certain professions, etc.  It's certainly plenty of choice, but that just makes the choosing harder!

    Your absolutely correct the main universal bits are the same but looking at the bare bones there are some big differences which can by omitted or added to suit your circumstances. Slightly bizarre was the Post Office gave some good quotes on Land Rover 

  5. 18 hours ago, JohnfromUK said:

    companies are probably using the same underwriters but

    I went on comparison website for a quote on a disco and 6 of the top 15 quotes used the same underwriter quotes ranged from around a grand to 3 grand 🤬

  6. 5 hours ago, Zoli 12 guage said:

    never heard of it to be fair.

    are you sure it's not " BDS" British Deer Society?

    I friend of the OH (non shooter) son started beating a few years ago now want to get into stalking, and they found this online. HUNTING AND SHOOTING ACADEMY.CO.UK fronted by Peter Jones of the Capreolus Club fame. He thought he could do this online course while studying for A levels. Like you never heard of it but looked very good.

  7. 22 hours ago, Vince Green said:

    The GOV.org website General Licence. 

    Pigeons can only be shot to protect  A crop after all other possibilities have been exhausted and a documented record exists of the non lethal attempts that were tried. That record must be kept for minimum of three years and produced when asked..

    But once they are legally shot you are free to sell them 

    This was the point i was trying to make, the GL is complete ********

  8. 50 minutes ago, Conor O'Gorman said:

    I know what you mean - but you never know.

    Thanks. Who does the grey squirrel control training and is there a cost? Also, have you any info on requirements for deer and mink? Also, as I understand it these are 10-year grants?

    I believe they are 10 year grants. We have no info on training yet for any of the Deer, Mink or Squirrel schemes but knowing how the Government behave it will be give you in one hand take with the other. Once you get tied into these schemes they will soon have any money they give you back plus some. I can see the deer control being first into compulsory training, and this is not a shot at the BASC but they and the likes of BDS, NGO, etc. creaming off the top of these schemes. Over regulation only ends in a worse situation than you started with. It's about control

    • Work with your deer officer/woodland officer to produce a Squirrel Control Plan (SCP) outlining the activities you will carry out. To secure the annual funding for this supplement you must email your SCP to your local deer officer/woodland officer by the end of year 1. Your SCP will build on the draft plan that you submit with your Initial Application documents
    • Take part in Grey Squirrel control training – your local deer officer/woodland officer will discuss these courses with you

    Straight from the GOV.UK WS3 website

  9. 3 hours ago, Scully said:

    We were all volunteers so never paid a penny

    Exactly this, DSC1 £400+ Expenses for little or no return, Squirrel Coarse £150+ at a guess no for return at all. I would assume a Mink coarse similar money.

    You log Stalker hours x stalkers in the field and record everything shot from every area being claimed on. All receipts and invoices I assume from sales and expenses to be recorded for taxes VAT etc. Can of worms if you ask me 

    17 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said:

    How is it proven who is doing what (impossible).  

  10. 12 minutes ago, holloway said:

    is mandatory training required,

    It is for the ws3 Squirrel payment. Contact your Deer Officer. I also control many squirrels, in excess of 150/yr so maybe I could run a coarse for £££££. 

    The Mink one is interesting we have about 700m of the River Ouse to claim on, but I'm sure there will be a catch......:lol: swimming lessons maybe ?, I do have my 10m certificate from primary school.

    Deer Control, Where is all the Venison going ? Can't give it away at the moment.

  11. As I've said before, we grow high end Equestrian Fodder and any contamination is a rejection and costly to income and reputation so are small farm shoot will cease, also I don't know what we'll do for pest control, pigeon, crows etc, I've tried some Bio wads. Eley Eco Wads are by far the quickest to degrade but were only available in No.3s at the time which are HP proof and completely ineffective on small quarry like crows pigeon etc. at any range above 30 yards due to a sparse pattern. Hull Hydrowad by all accounts takes months to degrade. Going to try the Gamebore offerings this spring.

    2 hours ago, Gordon R said:

    Not sure what the same farmers are going to do if we go to steel shot. The steel shot has to be fully enclosed by a much larger wad, which won't degrade in minutes. The larger wads will be lying around for weeks / months.

     

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