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unbiased opinion then?

was that a 2 oz or a 2 1/2 oz load?

Well, if you expected BB or 1s to give a half decent killing pattern through a standard 12 bore choked cylinder and 1/4 you were delusional.

What quantity?

You have to realise that the NHS, gov (= public) funded model is no longer affordable or fit for purpose. The politicians have been aware of this for many years .Previous episodes of disruption were controlled by throwing money at the problem eg Bliar'n Co.... The result then -after the financial award - was for the NHS Employees (drs) to take the money but reduce their hours -- whereby hospitals had to employ locums to provide out of hours/ weekend cover. European medics provided weekend cover at several thousands per weekend. The list goes on and on...GP services, etc.... Politicians will not stand up and say that public funded NHS is no longer "affordable" as it is a surefire vote loser. So they have to approach the problem in a way which lays the blame and dirt on the medics and not on themselves. The new rules on pensions ... both contributions and taxable income on benefits received will only add fuel to the fire.... A Treasury decision which impacts on the medics and indirectly on the latter's willingness to serve in the NHS.

Absolutely. However BSAC has a longstanding "stranglehold" on wild fowling clubs and such whereby "membership" fee is extracted as a necessary part of admission. Better value memberships can be obtained eg SACS, but these other organisations have not been deemed acceptable. Then of course the club committees of wildfowling clubs have a certain number of old codgers with "Life" membership of BSAC ...and needless to say they will not countenance any alteration to the status quo. In this day and age of "freedom of choice " ...this is anathema.

It is pointless to engage with Guardian readers.......or come to that with BSAC reps.

" We hope....., DEFRA will be encouraged to change.....etc " ... Forgive me for thinking that the DEFRA Civil Servants will not be shaking with trepidation?

My 2 cents : obviously a gun with history, so - get bores measured before you start researching a load and its build. ( some of these reconfigured guns will have > 10 thou" difference between L & R barrel.) And if it is a SB - still get it measured to give you the information needed to configure the appropriate load - ie card+felt or plastic wad , also approximate weight of powder appropriate to that bore diameter.

i bow to your superior knowledge .....

Good luck with the pup. No doubt he will be castrated as part of the corrective measures ...and I sincerely hope that the breeder will do the right thing and make due recompense.

As above ..... a factual and accurate synopsis of the situation.

This above is what bsac has relied on amongst the membership - apathy, reluctance to question the executive's agenda on the assumption that "they must be right" : and add in the executive culling any elected appointments who disagreed with their programme. Grumbling behind closed doors - if it happened at all - should have been frank open discussion and perhaps best of all a member vote on lead usage. The membership now find themselves where they are --- yep, up bsac creek without a paddle.

Absolutely correct. And COG - the only person on here who is self embarrassing is yourself. I ask is that down to naivety, stupidity ....or just lipping the party line and drawing the salary and perks?