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  1. Likewise I don’t doubt you, just find it a little worrying that these things happen and seem to not be investigated, if it was me, I would want to know exactly what happened
  2. The only ways that can happen is 1. no crimp (is S1shotgun, not, I believe, permitted on the foreshore) 2. crimp in wrong place ( again is S1 shotgun) 3. short cartridges loaded, 3 x 2” will go into the magazine of a 3 1/2” chambered, correctly crimped gun (which makes a mockery of this badly thought out restriction law*, although I doubt even a Browning Gold Hunter would cycle them and the thought of someone on the foreshore not knowing what cartridges he had is somewhat chilling) * the restriction of “multi shot” shotguns was a knee jerk piece of legislation from then Home Secretary, Douglas Hurd after the tragic Hungerford shootings where he sought to appease the media, public and anti gun lobby while protecting his landed gentry peers. It was pathetic then, it remains so today.
  3. For what it’s worth, and while many of us are stuck at home, how about taking out any duck plugs or capacity restricters and seeing how many you can get in the tube. (Dummies not live please!) If it’s more than 2 then call your FEO and ask his opinion This.......... with the hope that the importer, wholesaler and dealer do their job properly. Remember there is a cost to this that eats into their margin
  4. I would ask any seller, RFD or private that question and personally I now will not purchase unless I check for myself that the gun is legal, visible mechanical work( crimp, brazing or similar to the tube locating point) and proof house stamp with paperwork if still extant (many get lost) New guns should be checked before sale by the importer/retailer, it’s the law. I once bought a pump from a dealer as a repair project, it was stamped as S2 proof. When I got it home I realised that the reason it did not cycle was that the magazine tube was in backwards and not fixed permanently. I reversed it with the intention of loctiting it in place but realised that the crimp was now further from the receiver and it could take 3 rounds. I phoned the dealer and he said to return it immediately for a full refund, and he paid my costs too. He had effectively sold me an S1 on an S2 licence
  5. The definition is permanently restricted to 3 rounds with a permanently fixed magazine (tube). A removable plug is just that, removable, There are many around the country, I have bought some and crimped to comply immediately. They are by definition S1 and should an investigation by the plod take place for some reason, the owner would be found to be committing a serious firearms offence. (ignorance of the law is no excuse, Buying in good faith, I doubt would be mitigating circumstances, it would probably also land the seller in dock too, I am sure a prosecution would be sought by the police and CPS)
  6. Have done many, Measure the tube (from cartridge stop within receiver) for 2 cartridges of guns max proofed length (2.3/4", 3", 3.1/2") + length of follower + 1/4" . Crimp with Rounded Edge tube crimper, do not attempt to use tube cutter! It only needs to be crimped sufficiently to stop the follower falling out, don't go too deep. Make sure that the follower is captive within the tube on the cartridge side of the new crimp. Send or take to proof house or RFD who will do same, Wait a while, receive S2 shotgun and certificate of restriction, put on shotgun licence. Its no big deal, easy money for the proof house and if the crimp is not too deep, it can be drifted out to return to S1 and relicenced The 24" minimum barrel length applies to S1 and S2, the exception being double or single shots with short barrels which are S2 by capacity but are allowed as S1 with short barrels as Coach guns
  7. That is a serious re/upcycle! looking forward to this one, take care with the nasty stuff!
  8. After losing my 1187 charging handle in mud a few weeks back, I got round to making a competition replacement. I started with a block of scrap aluminium and a half inch belt sander. It came out ok and I added a bit of lightness by drilling a hole a' la Colin Chapman. This part does not exist (for a left hander) and was made by eye and fit. Hopefully being aluminium it will reduce the mass a small amount too. Works fine manually cycling the action, will have to wait until we can get out again for field test.
  9. I collect mainly Ithaca’s with a few other pumps and autos that I have traded. Held predominantly on S2 , the only niggle is sending in the SGC every now and then to update it. And not having enough money or cabinet space!
  10. Having seen them in the 'flesh ' so to speak, I can testify that they are indeed a lovely pair, Stay well Steve
  11. Likewise, key worker in transportation, for the time being anyway. Stay well guys
  12. In these uncertain days, I have been ordering sandpaper, wet and dry, paints, wood oil etc in case of isolation. Turning a bad thing around, I will be looking at fast tracking some of my projects, better that than watching endless media and climbing the walls. First job done was repairing the hill climbing ram on the running machine, been promising to do that for ages so mrs Impala happy and of course we will all need to exercise. PW and it’s stalwart members will, I am sure be a mine of information and support
  13. Alongside the famous (and vastly expensive now)Trench Guns, were riot guns (short barrel no adornments) and training guns, all of which were vital to the US forces during the world wars. Any 1897 is a living piece of history in itself, not in my opinion a museum piece or wallhanger. All my shotguns are live and are rotated and used, admittedly I have sort of specialised in Ithaca's, but if money and space were no object I would scour the sales for all the unusual, oddball and historic stuff that is out there and becomes available now and then. I was an engineer by trade and levers, cams, ramps, pivots and the like are what floats my boat. Think of a pump gun in 1900 and an aeroplane or car of the same age, the gun has hardly changed and a vintage gun will do the same job today as it did then. I have always said that in the game "what dinner guest from any time would you choose?" Mine would be John Moses Browning
  14. Always an education on this forum, long may it continue!
  15. But a 97 you can shoot would be a hoot on the clays!
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