Uilleachan
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1 hour ago, Newbie to this said:
I'm not saying otherwise. I'm mearly saying, it must be a ground policy. Just because they have insurance, doesn't mean they can't have a policy requiring individuals to have their own.
Well if it's a policy it's never been communicated to me.
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23 minutes ago, Newbie to this said:
It must be a policy of the ground that all shooters have their own insurance, their ground, their rules. It clearly states insurance is required on the website.
Like I say, I've shot Bisley (Braidwood admittedly) many times and never been asked for Insurance, not there nor at any of the other grounds I shoot.
If anyone should be asking for proof of insurance, it should be the customers. Their ground their business activity their liability, thats non transferable in law.
Not saying it it isn't a good idea to have personal insurance, having insurance is a no brainer, but the insurance onus for commercial shooting grounds, or any other commercially run activity, is on the business that runs the ground. Having your own insurance doesn't change that.
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13 hours ago, hod said:
Likewise at Bisley Braidwood. I'm sure they said I didn't need any, but that was a while back and my memory isn't great.
Paying customers at a company controlled premises don't, it's the legal entity/company in control of the site that's required, by law, to be insured unless considered self indemnifying, e.g. local authorities government etc.
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Never been asked to show insurance at Bisley
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Buy her a couple of lessons somewhere they have good instructors and a variety of guns the instructor can match her to. Leave her with the instructor see how she gets on and see what gun she finds most comfortable.
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At a commercial ground/or game shoot the liability is with the commercial entity that runs it.
I've shot at many grounds and never been asked to produce proof of insurance, ever. All I've ever been asked for is my SGC money and to follow the ground rules.
That said, there's lots of no-brainer reasons to have insurance of your own. Not least the £100k legal representation, it could be you thats shot or otherwise injured, by anything from slippery floors to being knocked down by site vehicles etc. Any of that is going to require you to have legal representation to fight your corner and, win or lose, that legal representation is going to cost.
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BASC, because BASC is way more than just insurance.
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I'm a great fan of petzl head torches, I travel with a small LED petzl head torch to far off lands for work, and I also use it as my general rural carry for knocking about at home. This fellow is smaller than pocket sized and works for quite a while on a couple of AAA batteries (amazon link just for example):
If I wanted a more powerful head torch then I'd look further than petzl.
If I need more power for picking out stuff at distance, I use my wee Clulite LED pocket torch from Cluson engineering, rechargeable running off a single 18650 battery, same as my e-fag. It's basically a normal pocket torch on half power or good enough to lamp with on full power out to shotgun and small bore ranges.
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There won't be any midges for a while yet, I, ever the optimist, am hoping the beast has put them back to June, as was the case in 2010.
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1 hour ago, throdgrain said:
Mine was very much like that, and is still tight after a couple of years and thousands of rounds. One day I hope it will open one handed after Ive fired my shots, but I'm not holding my breath
Had to use the left thumb a few times today to assist in opening, and when I was cleaning the gun, mindful of this thread, I put on my magno specs to look for galling issues, none that I could see. I didn't notice any issues shooting the sporting course choked half & half either, missed a few but that was me rather than the set up. Even managed to hit the easy stand 1 (auchterhouse) double, with a single shot
But then that was the wind moving things around rather than intelligent design.
Must have used the thumb 3 or 4 times, out of 275 shots that I can live with.
@ADT06, enjoy it mate.
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9 minutes ago, ADT06 said:
Cheers guys - hoping that’s the case and it will wear in, its 99% a brand new gun.
Think I will take it to the gunsmiths anyway just to be on the safe side, wouldn’t like a costly locking bolt replacement!
Here is a video of the issue:
Being so tight from new I took to be a good sign, first brand-new shot gun I've owned and, as I mention above it has loosened off a little. So in my view it's just a case putting a good few thousand rounds through it.
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Wouldn't worry about it. Mine was like that from new, i.e. very tight.
I just got into gripping the stock with my right hand and using my left thumb to push the lever.
A couple of years later and circa 15 thousand rounds and it's still tight, but not as tight in that I can open it with the thumb of the hand I'm holding the stock, the right. So slowly loosening off.
Sounds like you got a gun in actual "new" condition.
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Depends on the shooting, quarry kill zone size distance zero calibre.
Rested up, comfortable, wind in your face, all the time in the world; high mag works fine.
Difficult uncomfortable position, or stood off hand, no time to faff around; lower mag works best.
Personally I find the quick acquisition and jitter free characteristics of lower mag easier to deal with, especially when opportunities are fleeting.
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4x or 6x 30/30 reticule, low light think quality glass perhaps stuck on the ends of a 30mm tube.
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54 minutes ago, Scully said:
I was going g to let this and some other similar comments in this thread slide as we’ve done this topic before, but it always seems to come back to this particular issue.
We shoot pigeons whether we have an outlet for them or not. Despite being challenging to shoot and good to eat, they are a pest/vermin species, so unless their categorisation changes to wild game then I can’t think why there would be a closed season for them.
If a landowner asks us to shoot them, we shoot them. For us to tell him we won’t shoot them because we don’t have an outlet for them would mean we would find ourselves without that particular land to shoot onas the landowner would simply get someone else to do it.
If you find this unpalatable then don’t do it, but think before you criticise others who do.
Agreed.
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The next shoot on my calendar is a DTL shoot hosted by Glenelg and Arnisdale Gun Club at Arnisdale on Saturday the 7th of April. You'll likely be away by then, but if not it's an hour and 20mins or so from Shieldaig, it isn't a great distance but the roads aren't conducive to rapid progress, it would be a nice trip to one of the more out of the way west highland hamlets.
Here's Glenelg & Arnisdale Gun Club's Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/Glenelg-Arnisdale-Gun-Club-209352695942593/
The nearest shoot to Shieldaig is Achnasheen & Strathvaich Gun Club, held in the village of Achnasheen, depending on the route you take to Shieldaig? there's a possibility you'd drive through it. There's nothing on their Facebook page but if you are on Facebook you could message them, and they'll get back to you, you could also ask about other local (highland) shoots, all these guys are in the know.
https://www.facebook.com/Achnasheen-Strathvaich-Gun-Club-453480038127048/
and Inverinate Gun Club, roughly half way, time wise, between Arnisdale & Shieldaig
https://www.facebook.com/InverinateGunClub/
Their next shoot is 26th of May.
It's also worth asking about practice shoots, as any of them may be having a practice whilst you're up this way.
A little further, but on better roads and a better bet is Glenmoriston Shooting Ground, just outside Inver Moriston on Loch Ness:
https://www.facebook.com/Glenmoriston-Shooting-Ground-322320714496903/
Calendar here https://glenmoristonshootingground.com/calendar/
They've a 100 DTL shoot on the 24th
contact through their website for e-mail or phone.
You'd comfortably drive that in under 2 hours, it's 45mins for me and I'm more or less on the road from Shieldaig, which is around an hour.
I'm not that involved with local DTL shoots, so I'm not that keyed in to the wider local scene, but do contact these guys and do ask as there's quite a bit of it around, a very low population density means these events tend to be spread thinly over the year but there being quite a few venues theres usually 's a chance there'll be something on on any given month.
I'm keener on sporting shoots and for that I travel south, usually combining my trips with work trips to spread the cost and the justify the driving. There is a wee sporting layout at the Glen Moriston ground but I haven't tried it yet....
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Yep ^ Cold weather, cold cartridges etc. Try warming them on a radiator, reassessing when things warm up. .
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Such a buyers market at the moment a dedicated used 2nd hand miruko with an 8.4 bore choked 3/4 n' full in good condition can be had for not much more than the cost of re choking.
A Miruko 6000 30" fixed half & half sounds ideal to me.
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Same rules apply in Scotland over the issuing of a FAC.
However, deer stalking estates up here are happy to take any fare paying guest shooting, you don't need a rifle or an FAC as you're under the supervision of the estate. If you want to use your own rifle thats up to you and if you're restricted to a specific piece of ground you need to discuss it with your issuing authority. Which shouldn't be a problem as again, you'll be shooting under the supervision of the estate's staff.
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21 hours ago, Lloyd90 said:
I said it in the James Bulger thread - everyone was shouting that the public has a right to decide how things are done and it shouldn’t be left to educated professionals with experience in the field!
Well soon the public will be lobbied to vote to ban hunting in other forms, town folk who have no knowledge of the countryside and farming etc. They’re propped up with cute pictures of foxes and badgers and will only vote one way ...
^ That
Thats how it's seen by a huge section of the population these days, the result of the rise in post brexit referendum populism/public engagement, depending on your view, empowering the man at the bus stop, who previously hadn't a political thought in his head but is now railing against global elites and soon to be railing against perceived elites closer to home, looking to shape post brexit Britain, deciding who to vote for, deciding how his tax contribution should be spent.
An unintended consequence perhaps but a very real consequence none the less, is the fact that much of the countryside we shoot over is about to be subject to a radical revision in how it's funded, by way of public subsidy. The public will have a say, or at least the politicians will be setting out their stalls to tap in to the discontent to attract voters by shaping a dragnet of bundled generic grievance, angry voters angry at what ever it is they're angry about.
Thats what labour are doing with their consultation, which I took a look at from the link supplied by David @ BASC in the other thread and, it reads like a fisherman's fly box with a dressing to attract a wide range of conflicting dissident opinion.
Public opinion, or more accurately a generic one size fits all version of it, the sub political rival versions of it, influenced by the popular media, being drafted and punted by labour and the tories; will dictate/decide the way forward as to what takes place in the country for those in receipt of public subsidy and this will include policy over blood sports/country pursuits. And yes, this will be an urban heavy opinion as the vast bulk of the population are urbanites. A post brexit townie onslaught cheered on by the popular media looking to boost sales by peddling outrage, catered for by the political parties coming forward with fresh policy to tap in and attract votes.
For any that don't see it, have a quick click through these links related to the current EU subsidy system and the influences shaping the thinking on what will replace it.
Setting the scene
https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/21641/agriculture/farming-subsidies-in-the-uk/
establishing the facts (to be used in the shallowest populist facebook-esque way, so coming to a twitter meme/facebook share near you, soon)
https://fullfact.org/economy/farming-subsidies-uk/
shaping public opinion on the left and right
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/823054/Common-Agricultural-Policy-CAP-EU-subsidy-Rich-List-farmers
What the present government is saying
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-40673559
I believe the biggest risk to shooting sports we face will come about through an inevitable change in land use, bundled together with unfavourable public opinion the signs aren't looking good, for the medium term perhaps but it's already in the post. Such are the laws of unintended consequence.
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BASC is a non political shooting association, if they were political I wouldn't be a member of that organisation.
Being non political doesn't mean they shouldn't engage in political consultation, this being a consultation on issues with implications for it's members. They're acting with the express view of representing the interests of their members, like me.
The genie's out and on the loose, all this populist **** won't be stuffed back into the bottle, too late for that. The UK is about to see some real radical change especially in the countryside, where the new up and coming reality will settle is uncertain, much taken for granted under the status quo will be gone forever in new Britain. If we want a say in what's thrown out and whats kept, one has to engage, to not engage is to burry ones head in the sand and be thrown out with the bath water.
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Depends what you're doing I suppose.
There are lighter warmer drier materials available, however jackets and breeks are about more than just staying dry. There's a general protection from the physical environment element too, briers thorns barbed-wire, even just standing by a fire/brazier etc. Most modern materials aren't up to the rigours of rough daily use and it's in those situation where heavy waxed cotton wins out most of the time.
Where it loses out is in heavy persistent rain, starts by soaking down the neck then up the cuffs and hem, then the water eventually finds it's way through the wax cotton shell, creases n' cracks etc. And when it gets wet, it's soaking.
I spent many many days of the first half of my working life working in one of the most inclement parts of Europe, outside in all weathers, often without respite. There's no perfect solution, no do it all garment no matter the price. Tried most of them before finally submitting to PVC oilskins and just getting on with it on those days where there's going to be no escape.
Practicality over fashion or fad, every time for me and in the mix wax cotton still has a place, as do my goretex and ventile cagoules, but when it's a full on horizontal wet and windy day, it's PVC, moral fibre and fortitude that sees me through.
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Ammo can make a difference. I was planning shooting sporting clays with half and half this year but have recently found that my job lot of fiocchi 7.5 (english 7) Fblu are throwing such a tight pattern that using those in my gun I'm thinking of staying put or perhaps stepping down to quarter and quarter.
Nothing scientific, simply walked past the pattern plate and shot through the half choke at an unmarked part of it, at 35y measured by pace, and noticed that it is tighter than what I'd expect, plus I'm noticing there's much more dust coming off my kills.
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I like those Montrose bags, I fish the hill as well as shoot and where I am there's always a chance of getting a good soaking whilst out. I don't mind paying for good stuff but practicality comes first.
Bisley Pay and play .. insurance ??
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