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It looked quite nice till I started adding metal, camera up next week, this patch has been quiet, but there's been no feeder up, so that will probably change pretty quickly.
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I would never have left my Jill in with any other ferret when they were having young, separated the Male and females once they were mated and they were always in top condition.
One year the kits all went very easily, another year nobody wanted them, and this was 20+ years ago when I could find rabbits, definitely think before you breed.
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49 minutes ago, ratchers said:
Yes the weather has been a bit damp but managed to get out twice last week and scored three and had to do a temporary fix on a flip top lid which was empty and chewed. Well back today and nothing doing on the first feeder, level hardly gone down, so on to the temp mended one and no peanuts and no lid!, I did have the foresight to take another flip top with me so swapped them over and waited in a very cold breeze for something to happen, three hours later all I had seen was a randy hare chasing his mate.
Think you've got a beaver!!
I've just finished repairing a chewed uo feeder, it's easier to start again, combination of ply coming apart and the chewing meant I had to cut right back, but the beast holds 6kg now, going back up this week.
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15 hours ago, B686 said:
Solved now , poxy iPhone . Switched it off, switched it on and it works.
😅😅😅 standard IT solution
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Brief recap of last week.
Busy busy busy, I was out last Sunday after dark filling a feeder, and fixing the gap where the birds have been plundering the feed.
Monday it tipped it down so out Tuesday night again, checked two feeders and put two cameras up to see what's what for Thursday, it was gone 11pm when I left the woods but what a beautiful clear night with the stars shining and Owls calling.
In the wood this morning for 630am Wednesday and wow was it cold, no signs of any squirrels till 8am, then they weren't interested in the feeder, just each other or mooching about.
One appeared about 3 metres above me and started making a proper racket but finally ran off when I slowly looked around.
I had a few show up and look like they were going to the feeder to just vanish on me, then spotted one on a branch in almost plain view munching on something!! It looked huge in the thermal.
The rain started at 930, I'd already gone for a walk about but wasn't seeing anything so left this wood meeting a nice couple on the way out, despite me having the gun out there was no issue, quick chat about what I was doing and I was on my way.
I'd seen the forecast and thought I'll go and sit it out, check a camera and might get another couple, the camera showed a squirrel all morning, but the rain and cold just kept getting worse, despite there being a Buck and doe mooching around no squirrels showed up, and after 3hrs I was cold and wet enough to admit defeat, this was the first blank off of here this year, and it was still raining hrs later, will it ever stop!!
Thursday ☆☆☆☆☆
What a difference today was, no rain and the sun shone 😁😁
I had 2 squirrels go past my feeder early on, both sniffed about and just moved on, my guess is they've were looking for a female, because I had three males after that, plus another that just went through the canopy.
The third that showed up wasn't showing any interest in the feeder, normally I wait expecting them to hop up, but after the first two leaving I shot as soon as it stopped at about 30mtrs.
Perfect shot placement side on, and even at 30mtrs the JSB heavy went through.
The next two did what's expected going straight up onto the feeder, both were leaning forwards, the changes to the platform working a treat, both top of the head shots, both fell off leaving no mess.
It looked a perfect morning for a walk, but I'd left my spare thermal battery in work 😱🙈 I've no doubt I may have gotten lucky just going for a walk, but it's hard terrain and without the thermal your almost walking around blind.
So after yesterday's wash out I'd checked the camera and had a squirrel all morning so I went back for that one.
It was on the feeder when I arrived and moved off, but came back after 15 mins, and all my wet gear I'd left out from the day before had dried 😁
Another male.
I'd packed up after an hour, brolley, nets, chair, sticks and gun, stretched my back on a fallen tree when I saw another squirrel behind the feeder,, and we try to be so discreet.
Gun back out, loaded and waited and got a bonus female a few minutes later, straight up on the feeder, flippedthe lid and lookedcmy way, very happy with that.
Also saw a squirrel in the canopy on the Oak buds, it may have been the first I've seen because it wasn't raining sideways for a nice change.
Not the best picture but always nice to see the blue bells coming out.
Well brief ish 😅
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And Thierry Henry.
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On 11/04/2024 at 15:17, marsh man said:
how would I , or anyone else go down the car insurance route after coming into contact with a deer and resulting in a fair bit of damage
Everyone these days has a mobile phone, take photos and a short video, they would probably look at the area your in and not even question it.
This was last week, a few were jumping over the wall heading back to the woods, it's a narrow windy road that I know well, but they can spring out from anywhere.
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6 this week on two very different days.
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On 11/04/2024 at 20:21, B686 said:
Haha that pic of the window reminds me of my mate , he was in his works van in drivers seat and was trying to tamale a shot at a crow in a field through passenger window and ended up putting a hole through the wing mirror. 🤣
There's a few on here done that 😅😅
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Do your windows look like this? 🤭😅😅
Good binoculars make things look great, can't imagine a problem with Nikon.
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4 hours ago, figgy said:
Great that Mice nice to see some positivity for lead free options. Only by testing your own combo do you know what works and what doesn’t 👍
Cheers mate, I read some good reviews online, but like you say you have to try for yourself, I read comments from some saying that the accuracy was unusable for squirrels or live quarry, I may have just got lucky??
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Job done, I love private signs, they draw my eye 😁
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8 hours ago, Ultrastu said:
For the squirrels maybe use a heavy penetrating lead .177 (so a jsb heavy or bismag) head shoot them .the pellet will go right through and if your not sure it has ,just cut the head off before giving to the birds . Too simple really .
Not sure exactly what the timber business is .but traditionally any steel shot into trees is very bad for a the tree, but more so any machines that will cut the tree later chain saws milling machines etc .
Lead is soft so doesn't cause a problem .these lead free tin zinc aloys are almost as hard as steel. So have the same issues 😕.
I agree with everything you've said mate, and have already suggested it, most of my squirrels shot side on have the pellet pass through, but the bloke says lead is a no, and it's very close to home 😅
With the timber it's about there not being lead on the land, everything has gone non toxic, despite it having been used for how many years 🙄
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1 hour ago, Dougy said:
Didn't think of that, more difficult getting the rope round the trunk, or branches. But with looking at. 👌
If you do it that way, make it loose and start at the bottom, it's lots easier than trying to whip it around and catching it 😅😅
I'd just make sure not to put the signs up on anything nice that someone might want to use in 30 years time.
1 hour ago, Dougy said:Which one, i will probably use the same tool for attaching either. 😄
That's hilarious 😂
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53 minutes ago, Ultrastu said:
have a lead sheet back stop similar to yours and the 5 grn flat heads bounced out of it and back up to 20 yds 😳 .unless you have something like a pile of grain back stop or soft soil /mud I wouldn't use them . I've said before they should be banned on safety grounds . Maybe present this to your perm owners .
You wouldn't expect that from a full powered rifle, it's the sort of thing I get with the PP700W at 10mtrs knowing it's not even 6ft/lb
One place is to do with timber and out of their control, the other the land owner wants the shot squirrels for his BOP and so wants non lead using 🤷♂️
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1 hour ago, Ultrastu said:
6.8 grns isn't too light really
Just a lot lighter than I want to be using mate, plus the lighter lead pellets are often shorter as well, which the R10 mag doesn't like.
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1 hour ago, Ultrastu said:
840 fps ish .not much faster than a falcon accuracy plus at 7.4 grns . Which is no where near the limit for stability .
I've get great accuracy from jsb 8.4s at over 1000 fps
That's interesting, I thought being so light they'd be a lot quicker, but I guess the material sapps the speed not being as efficient through the barrel.
Then with them being so light in .177 I wondered if they'd get blown around.
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6 hours ago, Ultrastu said:
Excellent write up mice .I've not tried any .22 lead free but agree they might be the way forward over .177 for energy retention.
I've got in lead free .177 .jsb exact . These shoot well from my bsa's as does the barracuda greens .energy is OK also around 10.5 fpe .
But like you said the risk of ricochet Is huge and Safety glasses is a must at all times .I wouldn't use them un less forced to .
Cheers Stu,
I've read that the .177 Exacts are good, but lads can't get hold of them now, I'm guessing with the lead ban not going ahead the companies don't see a need for the pellets?
Any idea of the FPS the .177 were doing, I was concerned with the accuracy thinking the pellets would be going at silly speeds, and out of my Super Carbine I didn't expect them to be stable?
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23 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:
Hello, What rifle were you using ? i use a P15 and FX Verminator in 22 , ratting mostly maybe a few greys and blackies this year if they become a pest in the grain store, what would be a good one try, my lead ones are JSB Jumbo,
I'm using a Webley Axsor, something else I've read off a few lads is that it can take a while getting the accuracy back after shooting non lead, it's not something that I would choose to do unless there was a good reason, lead would be my first choice.
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13 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:
Hello, good post 👍 never thought of trying lead free pellets yet but your testing looked very interesting, 👍
Cheers mate, I think you'd have to have a reason to use them, my guess is you'd have to be extra careful around buildings or roofs, because they won't splat like a lead pellet would, ferals on girders are probably out of bounds, and it's these things that make air rifles so useful.
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57 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said:
Great write up and very interesting findings, like you I had only read very bad things about none Lead pellets.
Thanks, from reading others posts and articles I'd expect the .177 to be going too fast and be unstable, but some have had success with them.
But I don't like really light weight pellets, the .22 weighing what a .20 weighs fits the bill.
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I realise this won't be of interest to many, but as I've done some testing I thought I'll post it anyway.
I did a lot of reading and followed topics on lead free pellets when there was a chance the lead ban may have come in.
I've got one permission that now requires lead free, and a possible new place to shoot that would need to be lead free as well.
Now I didn't read much positive about non lead pellets, but I hadn't tried any till last month, I'd been given samples in .177 but the pellets didn't look great, and I wasn't willing to mess with the accuracy of my .177 rifle.
The .177 pellets are seriously light 4-6 grains, so I did some more reading and looked at what's available in .22 as I have a spare rifle, as you do.
Looking at pellet weights and what was available I bought samples of H&N Barracuda (12.4g) and JSB Exacts (10.75). One article I read said the pellets can be very dry compared to lead and suggested adding some lube, so that's what I did.
Both pellets looked brilliant, and I wanted the heavier pellet to be the more accurate.
To start off I was only shooting at 16mtrs, not a lot of use I know, but my garden was wet through so this was the max safe range I could get without trampling up and the wet grass.
It's fair to say I was very surprised, I zeroed with lead then started shooting the H&N, changed pellets and the target and shot some of the JSBs and the group was tighter, now lead free isn't supposed to group, I've seen posts from folk putting up far worse groups and saying how good a gun is grouping.
Now zoom in on the pellets, a big factor with these pellets is they don't brake up, my normal backstop is a few sheets of lead over a thermalight block, and other than rifling marks the pellets look untouched!! They have cut the lead to bits and York chunks out of the block, lead does not do this.
This is a few sheets of lead shot from a few metres setting the power on a .177 AA 410
All stopped dead, then bellow is the lead free shot at 20 & 25mtrs.
They have cut clean through the lead, then been stopped by the block, my guess is shooting against a normal metal pellet catcher the pellets are going to be pinging everywhere!!!!
After I'd done the test at 16mtrs, a few weeks afterwards I also shot some dead squirrels, I just positioned the squirrels in front of the above targets and took a single shot, each one punched straight through ( live squirrels won't sit nicely for you 😉)
It was almost a month before I got around to doing further testing, and I'd also bought some bags to shoot off, wow what a difference they make, I normally get a small amount of movement with my heart beat but on the sand filled bags nothing.
I set up, adjusted the scope then took the first shots, I'm using an old Webley Axsor, the head position is very fussy on this gun, and the trigger could do with being a bit lighter, but I've not really messed with it yet.
Starting at 20mtrs, three pellets through practically the same hole 😳 that'll do, then back to 25mtrs. I set my squirrel feeders between 20- 25mtrs so that's the accuracy I'm needing.
Red areas points to the direction cardboard was when shooting.
I was hitting a bit low, wasn't quite settled on the first few shots, but again the pellets were grouping, settled in ( the mag doesn't load smoothly, takes a bit of force to close, this is with any pellets, it's the same with an empty mag)
I finished off with the Red dot in the middle, two dots @25 metres, dot is 13mm
The pellets shot so well I'm tempted to try them through the Rapid, but anytime I've tried a pellet it doesn't like its only ever been one shot, you can feel when this gun doesn't like a pellet.
To say I'm pleased is an understatement and shocked, these at least are accurate and the H&N might well tighten up given chance.
I shot two pellets over the chrono, being the weight of a .20 pellet I was expecting them to be going really fast, but they were going 640 ish, giving about 10.9 ft/lb ( I did write the figures down, 643 & 646 I think?)
It's worth saying again if you got this far, be careful where you shoot non lead, it's a definite risk of ricochet, and I'd be surprised if ranges allow it.
So now I need to order more pellets, then the final test, which is shooting squirrels off a feeder.
Hopefully this is of interest to a few of you 👍
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It would be nice for her and the others to get what's coming, but my guess is she'll get away Scott (🤭🤭) free.