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  1. Just unfortunate .......

    in Stalking & Game Shooting

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    1 hour ago, London Best said:

    I don’t think it’s particularly the youngsters, rather the inexperienced whatever their age. Also, the fact that, today, most people come to shooting through clay shooting and seem to think that ‘game’ cartridges are different to ‘clay’ cartridges and need to be much more powerful.

    I agree as such but most youngsters now seem to be those inexperienced coming through in their 30,40s ect who like you said come through clay shooting . The problem with clay shooters as well is every clay can be shot at and they take that into the field too! Every pheasant is fine to shoot as they haven't been taught any better 

  2. Just unfortunate .......

    in Stalking & Game Shooting

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    I blame the cartridge company's and YouTube alot for this ! I'm a keeper myself and over the last 10 years especially with the younger guns. loads have got heavier and chokes tighter and we are just your average pretty flat ground shoot . Most birds are between 15-30yards and the odd screamer 50 yarder aka 35 yard bird 🙈 .

    In my experience though it's definitely the younger guns who seem to think you need a minimum of 32g 5 to kill a 20 yard pheasant. And so many birds are so badly shot they're only fit for ferrets ! I've seen guns crouch to try to shoot at birds just over their heads 🙄. I've found with the older gentleman who shoot they normally shoot 28g 6s and have no problem killing the birds cleanly and you never get any badly shot birds whereas when younger guns shoot I might get 12-15 every shoot just fit for ferrets . They seem unable to let a bird pass without shooting at it no matter the height which is very sad and even when a quiet word is said they just slip back into the habit quickly . There's seems to be the mindset of shoot it cause its there now . The day of being happy with a few quality birds you can remember at the end of the day seems to have been replaced by numbers no matter the height . 

  3. Smooth cartridge

    in Bullets, Cartridges and Reloading

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    15 hours ago, ditchman said:

    the "idea" of a smooth cartridge is directly linked to the weight of the gun and burning rate of the powder....and how low the comb/stock is configured.....i have used a nice smooth cartrige in my hamerless sxs..and theyworked nicely....i have then used the same cartridge in my old sxs hammer non-ejector...and ended up very jagged...

     

    Ferret664 likes his Eley Grandprix 30-32gm............. i have shot those in my light sxs with 26" barrels ...and i was not a happy bunny..:oops:

    I shoot eley grand prix traditional 30g 6 65mm in a lightweight sxs with 26 inch barrles and I personally find them really smooth 

  6. My day

    in Stalking & Game Shooting

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    We arrived to the yard at just before 9 on a very still and bright morning with not a breathe of wind . It was my first day shooting of the season my day on one of the shoots I keeper on . As normal having 3 Jack Russell I walk all day along with my dad and his lab and Spaniel . 

    We arrive at what was to be the first drive of the day but instead decided to blank it in to another drive hoping to fill that as we were shooting that next . As we blanked through the maize and surrounding potato beds which were extremly heavy going we flushed a good number of partridge and pheasants into to the next drive and a few pheasants went back over a couple of guns (we could shoot anything going back ) unfortunately they were too low . To get to the back of the second drive me and the beaters had to walk across the potato beds which was no easy task in itself! I could do with longer legs ! But eventually we made it to the back of the second drive , we got lined out and started by pushing two reservoirs up , one side covered in brambles and the other side a few trees. We pushed this up to a small spinney with maize on the right hand side . I took my spot in the middle and start to push the drive on . Fairly quickly a splattering of shots was head as early partridges broke out to the front guns . For the rest of the drive there was a slow trickle of shots as the odd pheasant and partridge went forward . One partridge came back which my dad hit but he could only get a single shot off and unfortunately this bird was lost . I fired my first shot of the day here taking a squirrel.  There was a heavy frost on the ground the dogs were having difficulty scenting 
     As a couple partridges were lost on the potatoes bed even though they fell dead !. We searched and searched to no avail! With all the birds we could find picked . 
    We headed off to the next drive which was a long rough left field one side with a block of maize the other . Unfortunately this drive was very quiet with only one bird seen that fell to a single shot from one of the front guns . 
    This was only a long morning kind of thing with 5 drives so we cracked on . 

    Next up was one of our bigger drives . A nice long wood which provided sport straight away as soon as we entered the wood birds started to flush and there was a splattering of shots . A third of the way through the drive a hen caught me by surprise and a hurried first missed shot was followed by a second shot that hit but the bird hit the ground and ran straight away but was quickly gathered by one of the beaters spaniels who chased it a good 100 yards before gathering the bird . The rest of the drive was quiet for me but there was a good amount of birds taken here.  Once these were all gathered it was off to the next one ! 

    This next drive consisted of blanking it a reservoir that was surrounded by thick cover both sides mostly blackthorn and brambles which I always a delight getting through! But normally hold a few birds and today was no different with 2 pheasant and 3 partridges being flushed forward to the drive itself.  Which was a small pond surround by tall conifers and thick brambles.  We have a few duck in there and you get a few pheasants in there . The ducks went up first a few released and wild ones mixed in who were up before we even entered.  A good few birds where taking here and I saw my friend who was my guest for the day take his first ever mallard as a part of  a left and right ! He was happy to say the least . I just waited back behind the pond to see if any pheasants came back and a few did but all too low . I gave one half hearted barrel and a hen that came back but that was all for me there . 

    We were off to the final drive of the day . This required a bit more blanking in and we have to push a bit of maize into the back of the wood and with the front guns lined out and ready to go we started . One cock pheasant was seen in the maize but he glided into the wood . So with everyone lined up we began to sweep the block wood through.  What surprised me here was the amount of partridges here ! Which gave the standing guns something to think about early on ! 
    This wood we beat halfway through then swing the right down into the bottom corner . So I stayed back in the left hand corner as I know a few birds like to cut back this way when the right is being swept in and right on cue I saw a cock pheasant coming my way . A poor first shot was quickly followed by a better second shot that  folded the bird dead . By this point the beaters were nearing  the end of the wood. the right hand flanked had pushed right down . When I saw this amazing hen considering the complete lack of wind and how many birds had stayed low today.  She really climbed turning to me right I took her at about 40 yards as a crosser and as the old brevete shotgun barked and the old faithful eley grand prix 30g 6 hit their mark . Her head flew back and feet came froward like she had hit a invisible wall and tumbled to the ground . That was my last shot of the day but what a shot to end with . 
    The front guns here had done well too and we ended up with a bag of 37 head not bad for a 4 hour mini driven day 


    Ferret

  8. Which cartridges?

    in General Shooting Matters

    Posted

    I would use the gambore bismuth 32g 4 for the ducks   bit cheaper then the eleys and never had a issue with their performance 👍 also if you're talking standard pheasants sub 40 yards (most pheasants on these shoots are normally shot at 20-35 yards as people can't tell range ) any 28g-30g 6 would be perfect 

  9. Bio ammo

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    13 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

    I have been very impressed with the Bio Ammo shells so far, have had some cracking kills at good range on the clays.

    Not been kicked about either, but then my guns fit me.

    The gun fits me quite fine and I've shot plenty of 32g 5s through it and never felt recoil like that . After 6 shots I swapped back over to English sporter and the difference in recoil you can't even compare. I let others I was shooting with try them in their guns and they all said the same.  Far more recoil felt .

     

    10 hours ago, Old Boggy said:

    If I recall correctly, the Brevette is a French gun and most SxSs were made for walked up shooting and consequently were quite light (well below the 96/1 yardstick for weight/load).

    This might explain why these particular cartridges feel punchier if they are faster than the normal ones used.

    OB 
     


     

     

    I've shot plenty 32g loads through it with far less recoil . Plus English sporter in a 28g 7.5 was fine the bio ammo was again a 28g 7.5 

  10. Bio ammo

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    On 25/09/2021 at 16:26, Old farrier said:

    Ohh dear that’s not so good dosent bode well for a big drive on the partridge day 🤭

     

    thanks for getting back to us with the report 👍

    would you mind saying the make and weight of your gun 🤔

    My sxs is a brevette . No idea on weight never weighed it sorry 🤔 it didn't like it for sure and I'm a big lad (17st) a recoil means nothing to me normally but it even bruised my shoulder 🤣

  14. Steel proofing a sxs

    in Guns & Equipment

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    My concern isn't about standard steel as a whole just the eco wads as I won't be throwing plastic wads about the countryside if I can help it . So from what I seem to gather from here the eley eco wads in 2 3/4 chamber the 5 are standard steel so should be fine even though it says steel proof guns and the 3s are high performance loads so not suitable? I've seen the traditional 2 1/2 inch shells as well.  But can't seem to get them this way that I've seen ? Think I will leave it for now until the ban comes in then open my full choke to half ?.

  15. Steel proofing a sxs

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    14 hours ago, Stonepark said:

    There is no requirement or advice to alter chokes for standard steel, only HP steel.

    I thought even standard steel was recommended no more then half choke also ? There so many different bits of information that say different things its so confusing 😕  so standard steel would be fine through a full choke ? Eley eco wads even in 5s say for a steel proof guns even though I thought standard steel was up to shot size 4 ? 

  16. Steel proofing a sxs

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    7 minutes ago, Scully said:

    Who said the eco wads are for steel proofed guns only, and why? 
    If in doubt, and if you can find a ‘smith willing to open the choke without insisting it goes for reproofing as a result ( in which case you may aswell have it proofed for steel ) I’d just have it opened to 1/2 and crack on. 
     

    It's what it says ontop of the boxes . I use it already through my hatasan  which is steel proof . 

  17. Steel proofing a sxs

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    So with the upcoming move over to steel shot is it worth getting a side by side steel proofed ? Can you get a 2 3/4 chambered side by side barrels steel proofed ? As I see the eley eco wads say for steel proofed guns only ? Or is steel proofing only for 3inch high performance loads ? My side by side is 1/2 and full choke and I've heard it said just open its chokes up to half and it will be fine but I don't like plastic wads so the eco wads will be my go to but they say only steel proofed guns ? Any help would be appreciated 

     

    Many thanks 

  18. Fly fishing season

    in Country Sports

    Posted · Edited by Ferret664

    Fished grafham from the bank Saturday.  All the North shore holding fish . Had over 30 between 5 of us . I had another double hook up one home tied hare ear variants.  Almost all fish falling to hare ears and diawl bachs great day.  Takes were arm wrenching just letting nymphs drift round in the breeze.thats what fly fishing is all about .    

  19. Fly fishing season

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    Fished Rutland on Saturday had my best day ever plenty of fish fo the boat.  Mostly to buzzers with some coming to a di3 washing line twiddled back with cormorants.  Great day . 

     

    Hows everyone else got on big or small water so far ?.

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