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  1. 1 hour ago, Mungler said:


    Your bottom line is that the US must carry some blame in this and that there must have been something that happened that we’re not privy to trigger this.

    You have no evidence of causation - US meddling (whatever that means) and which is not admitted, does not automatically give rise to a wholesale invasion or justify hundreds of thousands dying.

    You know I’m a big fan of Hitchens and you know what happens to an assertion backed with zero evidence? It goes in the bin. Besides if we’re punting zero fact based assertions then I favour my assertion of Putin going potty in isolation and wanting to stitch the Russian empire back together like Peter the Great and that’s because there is some evidence he’s isolated himself to the extreme and there’s lots of medical evidence that that’s not good for mental health.

    Lastly, all this talk of the US being responsible or having a hand in this…. where is that present here?

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    People like to talk hard. But having spent a few winters in that region at minus 25+ it can kill you very quickly. When people are hungry and cold they will do anything. Mentally preparing your self is not the same as freezing or starving.

    15 hours ago, Gordon R said:

    This has everything in common with your posts.

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    I don't recall Putin offering a complete end to the war and negotiating. 

     

    No he didn't and not many countries in conflict end war and then start negotiations. Most of them negotiate, that breaks down, conflict starts, negotiations start, conflict continues as they try to work out the best deal. If that doesn't eventuate, conflict continues and then there is an unconditional surrender.

  2. 1 hour ago, treetree said:

    Some months back we were told Russia was taking the microchips out of dishwashers and fridges for weapons systems.

    It's part of a cynical attempt to show the gullible public that sanctions are hurting Russia  when in reality the sanctions are hurting us more.

    That furphy.  All the memes of tractors and DJI drones , don't see much of them anymore.

  3. 1 minute ago, henry d said:

    I see that sanctions may be forcing Putin to buy stolen Swedish speed cameras to use in Russian drones.

    I really can't believe that I posted this as this war gets more bizarre than the inmates of PW! 😆

    Do you honestly believe that? The sam reports say Sweden's speed cameras have Nikon cameras and the kamikaze drones have Canon. But they can't explain why they are being stolen.

     

     

  4. 2 minutes ago, oowee said:

    I have been to Ukraine. My wife was a frequent visitor to Russia and speaks the language but what difference does it make? Having been under the boot of Russia for the first 16 years of her life, where summer pioneer camp she was taught to throw grenades at the west, she is happy to have her freedom in Europe. 

    No doubt you have but is your handle Mungler?

  5. 1 hour ago, Mungler said:


    Errrrr you are joking?

    Ah no, you may actually believe that but with very careful use of the word ‘significant’ of course.

    Don’t confuse being a brainwashed Russian shill unable to criticise any aspect of the despotic war mongering murderer that is Putin, with some noble stance of non ‘significant’ (scoffs) criticism.

    If you could have mustered even a drop of real objective criticism of Putin you would have had a chance of convincing people on here that you weren’t a brainwashed one sided Russian shill. Alas that has not come to pass.

    So you have you been to Ukraine or Russia?

  6. 39 minutes ago, Mungler said:

     

    You are genuinely not making any sense, but don’t change what must be a habit of a lifetime eh?

    1. Criticism of Putin - if you believe that you you have already provided any significant criticism of Putin you have not. If you think you have then ok, brilliant, you are absolutely the closed minded brainwashed Russian shill I always knew you to be. 

    2. ‘Answer the word count’ makes no sense in the context of my exchange with Rewulf or in the context of my last post which I thought to be pretty self explanatory.

    I don't provide significant criticism of Zelensky, Biden, Johnson, Truss, Morrison, Arden, Xi, Modi, Macron, Dragi either.

     

    Must be you who needs to provide significant criticism to justify your position. Don't confuse that with other people's intentions.

    18 hours ago, Mungler said:

    You boys want to take it easy on the nutty pills. If you scoff them all now, you'll have none left for the weekend 😀

    Have you ever been to Ukraine or Russia?

  7. 3 hours ago, Mungler said:

    A few pages back, the question I posed to Rewulf was:

    “As for tough questions I’ve ducked - I love a test. Fire away, list them out. Shall we impose a voluntary word count for question and answer?”

    If your involvement or progression of this is ‘what’s your word count?’ then please try a little harder in forming a reply.

    We’re all still waiting for you to say something negative about Mr Putin - seriously, do have a go. Following on you may understand the use of ‘Russian shill’ in the meantime 😃

    So I take it that you can't answer the word count or bother reading my previous answer. Do you like the sound of your own voice?

  8. 6 hours ago, Mungler said:


    What respond to more wandering off and more random Kremlin sponsored stuff off the internet slapped over the thread?

    I think yesterday nailed it. 

    Notwithstanding that Putin has never said the invasion and war is about the Donbass (I bet he doesn’t give a monkeys - those people he’s looking out for he’s shelled flat for the best part of the year and now has locked down under martial law) and no explanation has been given for such an expansive all points of the compass invasion in respect of a comparatively small region, I really do ‘get’ that it’s the shills best shot at a reason. 

    However, correct me if I’m wrong, but the shills list off half a dozen US led ‘invasions’ and cry to hold the US accountable. In addition, we have no discernible example of an invasion followed by a war being either a good idea, the best option available or resulting in a positive outcome. 

    So, all that the shills accuse the Americans of doing, we have Putin doing right here and now and with probably far less accurate bombs and or application of the Geneva convention.

    Then we have the whole ‘oh look back at the region’ over the last 10 years etc. Again, parking for a moment that Putin gives a monkeys about the region or it’s people, if Pimlico decided entirely on it’s own to extract itself from the UK…. well it’s all on the previous pages.

    That appeared to me to nail it. On the shills own case they make out against the US they are beaten with when it comes to Putin’s invasion and war.

    Then we still have MCHughCB saying that he had already offered up criticism of Putin - he hasn’t, or if he did it was the sort of criticism that wasn’t, like ‘he just cares too much’ or ‘he should have used more tanks and killed more people in the first two weeks’.

    So, standby we’re still waiting on McHughCB to say anything less than complementary about the war mongering lunatic that has started a war in mainland Europe and singled handedly responsible for the deaths of a hundred thousand plus people.

    And that brings us onto now and more mad links to the mad corners of the internet by the Shills. 

    If I’ve missed anything or anyone thinks I’ve ducked a question, fill your boots.

     

    What's your word count?

  9. I have responded to this before. However you ignore, rinse and repeat.

    Well there appears to be reports that the bomb used for the kerch bridge was smuggled out on a grain ship from Odessa. Under normal war conditions there would have been a naval blockade and this would never have happened.

    The humanitarian corridor period for allowing merchant ships through is about to end. Along with the no bombing of Odessa port facilities. Russia is saying they won't extend period unless some sanctions are lifted and fertiliser is allowed to be exported.

     

     

     

    11 hours ago, Mungler said:

    There you go again. Irrelevant. Utterly utterly irrelevant to the here and now of Ukraine. 

    Also, great examples of where an invasion was a dreadful idea.

    Indeed you hold the US to account for those conflicts / invasions but you can’t Russia now - why is that? You cry hypocritical, back atcha 

    Mention any of those countries or conflicts to anyone in Ukraine and they will wonder what Kremlin supplied drugs you are on.

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    The Americans wanted regime change. Americans are still there after regime change. Are the Americans in Ukraine for regime change. 

  10. 3 minutes ago, welsh1 said:

    Lol martial law is the control by military or suspension of civil law, and as i have shown you the military never took control  and the civil side of the law remained in control at all times acting under a law passed by their government which act for the people and are put in position by the people and can be removed by the people.

    Even mc ackowledges that his use of the term martial law was wrong.

    They didn't suspend civil law ,they used civil law to enact powers, and the civil forces were not overwhelmed as quite clearly they were in control.

    Certainly felt like it but that's okay. I recognise the legal definition rather than the outcome. I admit I was wrong. If people can't accept the legal definition of a special military operation then that's okay too.

     

  11. 9 minutes ago, Jaymo said:

    Melbourne Truthers—- we have our very own Dave-G for nut job conspiracy theory’s, but at least he admits he does so with an open mind.

     

    ’Peaceful and activist’ - stirring trouble to garner a reaction. Isn’t following the request to stay home by illegally demonstrating and gets a bruising. 
    Reap what you sow

    Ungrateful ****. Imagine walking outside without a mask. You will comply or die trying.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/melbourne-readies-exit-worlds-longest-covid-19-lockdowns-2021-10-20/

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    1 minute ago, Rewulf said:

    Does it have to make quacking noises ?

    Martial law is the imposition of direct military control of normal civil functions or suspension of civil law by a government, especially in response to an emergency where civil forces are overwhelmed, or in an occupied territory.[1][2]

    Not sure what definition you are posting but the second part is right. Parliament was suspended for almost a year. Not even during WW2 was it suspended. 

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  13. 14 minutes ago, welsh1 said:

    So you were not under martial law.

    No, I said martial law but if you want to get technical we were under a declared state of emergency that also allowed the deployment of military on the streets and to impose curfews. Plus shoot anybody on sight.

    If you want to be a stickler for legal terms that's fine I have corrected myself.

    And technically it's a special military operation because the Russians have not made a declaration of war.

     

     

  14. 47 minutes ago, Stonepark said:

    The "concensus" is is highlighted in quotations as it is not a concensus but a narrative, a story, a fabrication, ergo lies.... Just to be clear CO2 does not cause climate change, COVID is manmade, mRNA vaccines are useless, USA caused the Ukranian coup and civil war for money.

    Yeah. 

    2 hours ago, Stonepark said:

    Thank you for acknowledging that we spend a good time of our lives thinking. The problem is that every where we look we do find "conspiracy", government lies, MSM lies, deplatforming, "fact checking misinformation", etc etc..... If it's true, it's not a conspiracy.....

    Fortunately, we are nowhere near the "bonkeroony" end, we simply are prepared to question what we are told, consider other sources and make up our own minds based on having as complete a picture as possible. The fact that this does not coincide with the mainstream "concensus" parroted by the MSM merely shows how much "control" they have.

    Question... Should the UN\Nato have intervened in Ukraine and supported the last democratically elected Russian orientated Ukranian government in order to prevent the illegal coup in 2014?

    UN with an African in charge couldn't step in to prevent 800,000 Rwandan civilians.

  15. 2 hours ago, welsh1 said:

    Did the military take control of Victoria?

    The military were mobilised St checkpoints around Melbourne city to prevent people leaving and at the border to prevent people leaving the state. The actual state was under the control of the police who deployed tactical response teams in armour vehicles to shoot anybody on the streets with rubber bullets.

     

     

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