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27 minutes ago, Graham M said:
This isn't about taking a follow-up shot, this is about filming a bodged job and then having a good laugh as the poor animal struggles to swim to land as it is dying......................
And then putting it on the internet for all the world to see.
Earlier this year I botched a shot at a fox. It moved on the shot and I hit it on the front leg. As it struggled to run off I managed to put another shot into it....
I was absolutely mortified by the situation and certainly didn't see anything to have a laugh about, and if anyone had been videoing it I would have demanded that the video be deleted. The thought of someone putting it on the internet for everyone to see would have been the most humiliating thing anyone could have done to me.
I totally agree. I'm not trying to justify anything in the video and I am not saying I agree with the actions of the guide or the client. I put my thoughts on that in my first post.
I am totally with you on videoing. You have to ask... Why would you?
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14 hours ago, scarecrow243 said:
Whoever said they think it's illegal to shoot an animal in the water... It isn't. it was me who said it and i dont care who thinks its ok to do it its not and it should be made illegal
Why?
7 hours ago, bruno22rf said:I can say, hand on heart, that I never have, but then I dont shoot deer. I prefere to watch them.
Fair enough.
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1 minute ago, WalkedUp said:
If it was a 2nd shot it still failed to quickly despatch the beast. Needing three shots (not that they actually fired the third) to do the job isn’t particularly impressive - wouldn’t video or post it.
Well yes. Of course.
None of it is impressive. If I have a client and a deer needs follow up it's me that shoots, not the client as typically they are less experienced, adrenaline is up etc. So why the guide isn't shooting here I'm not sure.
It looks to me like he tries to body shoot it but the shot is actually lower than the water level which again was a poor choice but how much more was showing? Neck and head on a moving deer?
And my guess would be a third shot wasn't fired due to backstop. As I said before he could have walked 30yds down the shore and shot it again.
All very difficult to say as it is total speculation, none of us were there at the time.
I wouldn't and don't video any of my shooting, I can't understand why anybody would ever want to do so unless they think they are hot ****.
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1 hour ago, bruno22rf said:
The fact that it was a second shot makes it worse for me - who's pulling the trigger? Mr Magoo? To attempt to justify this clip as anything other than downright cruelty is sheer folly - and as for why are clips like this released, is it OK to let this kind of practice continue as long as no body sees it? The shooting community needs to clean up it's act and damned fast if it has any hope of surviving long term. Laughing as an animal dies in pain and fear is the act of a complete moron - no excuses.
If you have never had to take a follow up shot at deer. You're either a liar or you have shot **** all.
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10 hours ago, mossy835 said:
cant under stand why they put it up.
If the follow up story is true then I don't have any problems with the actions in the video.
The shot came during a window where the stag had a big rock backstop behind it. Presumably a second or third follow up shot wasn't taken because the stag had moved and the next shot wouldn't have been safe. Difficult to judge from a video where the camera and the rifle are at different angles.
Personally I might have moved my position to shoot again but I wasn't there.
I imagine the laughing etc is more elation at having ended a follow up of a wounded deer. Having wounded deer myself and then had a lengthy follow up it is a massive relief when you finally fix your mistake. I wasn't there so I don't know though.
Whoever said they think it's illegal to shoot an animal in the water... It isn't.
What I can't get my head around is the obsession with filming every thing. Not only that but putting it on the internet? What the **** is the motivation behind that?
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46 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said:
Havne't they gone busy several times?
Yeah and I think the last time was only 2 or 3 years ago.
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I have two and love them both.
They shoot well. I use them for wildfowling if I anticipate a lot of teal (instead of the 10 bore) and pheasants.
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.410 shotgun.
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Cascamite or epoxy.
No need for a dowel it won't make a ****s worth of difference.
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On 31/10/2020 at 14:31, ehb102 said:
The time when I call misogynists out? That's every day, sweetheart. And currently you're ranking about the top one on PigeonWatch. Take a bow, and hope that no woman to I are about ever finds out what you really are.
Okay Doris whatever you say.
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1 minute ago, Scully said:
I doubt you’ll ever know! 🙂
Poor Walker.
He might be the first person to reach 150.
7 minutes ago, Walker570 said:The way this country is going it makes me glad I have just reached 80yrs of age. 20yrs time it will not be worth living in.
Just out of curiosity. When you were in your 20's do you remember 80 year old men saying the same thing?
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Noble cause but Change.org is a waste of time.
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14 minutes ago, ehb102 said:
Men who insist on shaved pubic hair on women are usually far too influenced by porn or by paedophilia.
Yes, you heard me right. We know your porn addictions and your "young girl" tendancies - that's what a woman without body hair is.
Women are not toys, we are people. We do not exist to make men happy, or in relation to men.
I wish the women you want to have sex with could see how you talk about them.
Time of the month love?
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5 hours ago, oowee said:
Forrest free
😝
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22 hours ago, oowee said:
Not that I condone such things but we used to drive to The Boot at Honily in Warwickshire drink 5/6 pints and raz back in a Cortina gt and think nothing off it. Going to a rave in Birmingham with a spindryer as a loo for the few hundred people there tipping it out of the window when full. Driving up the steps of Coventry Cathedral in a land rover just because we could. Watching the Specials at Tiffany's and the General Wolfe. The best moments in life captured in memory by the association with music.
Maybe it was just the joy of youth but I can't help thinking everything was just so much more relaxed and accessible.
Damn it man stop dodging the REAL question!
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Nah.
You had to deal with hairy growlers
I guess the shaven haven came in around the late 90's.
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On 15/10/2020 at 17:14, arjimlad said:
A goose tagine?
Pop the meat in a plastic bag with your favourite curry spices & some olive oil to marinade in the fridge overnight.
Slice & fry 2 large onions, with a dessertspoon each of ground cumin, coriander, turmeric. Let it sizzle until the onions go all soft.
Chop & add the meat & some garlic & fry that in the mix until it's sealed.
Add a tin of chopped tomatoes, some paprika, crushed green cardamom pods, a tablespoon of tom puree, a glug of lime juice and dried apricots.
Fuzz into the slow cooker for a day and it's yummerama.
Holy ****. That sounds good.
I'll do that tomorrow with some canada breasts I have in the freezer.
This might be the best post on Pigeonwatch 2020.
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10 hours ago, Ferretlurcher1970 said:
Everything tastes nice under pastry
Everything?
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5 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:
I'm not sure really but reading this thread I feel lucky, for over a decade I had a large dominant gsd which almost certainly would ward off an aggressive dog if I met one, but have owned collies, springers and pointers as well as a few complete and utter mishmash of God knows what breeds. I suppose I've never owned just one dog either which might also have helped. I just hope it continues that way.
As for is it your fault, I think that's being far to harsh on yourself, if you or your dog have been attacked before of course it'll make you nervous and wary of other strange dogs and of course any dog that has been attacked before will be on the defensive/offensive, if you think you are uptight when you see a dog approach it's important to try and relax, as any tention in you will travel straight down the lead to your own dog and could lead to a fight. Good luck 👍
That's what I was thinking as I was responding to the thread.
It's probably a combination of things but I bet the body language doesn't help.
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On 24/09/2020 at 21:28, WalkedUp said:
I put my dogs into a sit if another dog approaches out of control in public. It almost always works to intimidate or confuse the other dog into leaving, as mine sit perfectly regimented with eyeballs fixed and muscles taught. Any dog that ignores this perimeter runs up barking at my children gets instant and very severe correction. There are no exceptions to this rule. The owners’ excuses of “he’s frightened of young children”, “he doesn’t like groups” or “he’s all bark” mean nothing to me. A lot of people get upset and are visibly shaken or occasionally angry but it is a useful lesson for them, I see it as training for the owner to help them understand acceptable behaviour from a dog as much as training for their dog not to threaten people.
If your dog habitually runs up to other dogs / children / people / livestock in an uncontrolled manner leaping or barking at them in a public place there is only one solution but most people are too cowardly to accept it.
When you buy a dog you need to understand that if you ruin it through negligence (lack of training, lack of socialisation) then you should be the one to have the guts to see it be destroyed, not pass the problem on by rehoming it or letting the problem fester until a good dog or child gets hurt.
Totally agree.
Good point well made.
I once had a guy with a golden retriever, daily it would be off it's lead maybe 500 yards away from him across the fields.
One day I managed to catch ahold of it. I put it in the van and it came to work with me for the day. I kennelled it overnight then phoned the dog warden. He collected that afternoon.
Not sure if they still have dog wardens but apparanatley there is a £70 charge on collection when they reunite the dog with the owner.
52 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:I've got to be honest I've never really had a problem, I've kept dogs all my life and always had at least two, I have obviously experienced the odd dog who failed to recall come bounding up to mine, but I've never had a dog showing real aggression towards any of mine, I find it surprising just how many on here have had serious problems with others dogs. My only guess is I've always been lucky that I live in nice areas that don't own the stereotypical staffy with a huge collar and a chav in tow.
Perhaps you have been lucky.
I wonder if it is your attitude perhaps.
Having had nasty experiences previously with other dogs I imagine my body language as another dog approaches is defensive. Perhaps the other dog picks up on this?
Maybe my digs pick up on this and adjust their response to the other dog accordingly?
Maybe the result is partly my fault?
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The first one was ****. I assume this will be **** as well.
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9 hours ago, Eyefor said:
Not at all.
Your Mother in Law's child is no longer hers. She (or he, maybe - just being PC) is now your wife / husband.
Tell her to **** off.
I frequently do and delight in doing so.
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My mother in law is a bully. Does that count?
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Walker is right, Sessile oak and Hazel.
The middle one could be Black Walnut?
That's a Black Walnut if it helps.
Bad shot ?
in Sporting Shooting Videos
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The stag was injured previously according to the poster so it was humane despatch.
Why does shooting have to be sporting as long as it is humane?
You mean I have to stop sending people my nudes now?