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Im sure thats the case regarding rifles which are 2 handed weapons, but the modifications he made caused the police to deem it a 1 handed break barrel air pistol. Which are limited to 6ftlbs, the rifle would not of been below that so i assume was classed as a section 5 prohibited weapon. It ultimatley lead to the guns confiscation with no further action.

As far as i found out taking the stock of and taking the barrel below 30" caused it to be classed as an air pistol, which are limited to 6ft lbs.

Apparently it was for pest control in confined spaces, hed taken the barrel to less than 30" which ment it was a pistol and wasnt allowed to be over 6ft lbs. And yeah dodgy as ****.

I know of someone that sawed the barrel and the stock down on a legal limit air rifle and all he got was if confiscated...needless to say its getting sorted anyway (i dont want it confiscating) and for all we know it could be pefectley fine already. The amount of legislation surrounding air rifles confuses me, iv got a barnett predator that will send a 400 grain bold at 430+ fps and its my springer thats the problem....what a country!!

Don't be daft gordons probably a warm welcoming and understanding individual, just like the rest of you.......im done with this thread now if thats ok with everyone. Im late for the bank job iv been planning anyway, and theres probably a pensioner i can mug along the way. Night all

Good points, well made.

Taking it to gun shop monday. Says if its vastly overpowered he'l sort it or buy it if i want. He said if its only slightly over with the first pellet he fires he'l leave it because springers go stiff when sat for a few days then lose about 10% power after bieng used 2 or 3 times.

I let my bsc in computer science do the taking for my brain vs your brain buddy. To think i get accused of being childish when you send messages like this. Taking it to my gun shop monday for testing.

You wrote that my blade was fixed. You like many other have contested weather or not my claims are true. Iv recieved more replies telling my that the things iv said are false than i have giving me advice. If pointing that fact out and puttin people straight when they call me a liar makes me immature and ensures a less than warm welcome from yourself and those like you, then I dont think im cut out for gun ownership either. Im nothing like you petty close minded judge mental people. When people tell me about there past my first instinct isnt to try and poke holes in there story or judge them. I been open an honest from the start and have faced almost constant cross examination of my claims. Thank you to everyone that made a real attempt at constructive input, but this site is too much for me. The crossbow crowd is much more welcoming...im going home.

The football match was played on fields a stones throw from my house. The park area covers just over 2 acres and is where i spent the majority of my youth and adolesence. The only difference to any other time when i wasnt breaking the law is that an organised sporting event was taking place. Why do you think i got away without even a fine? Tht type of offence carries a few years in prison max penalty. But all it got listed as was possesion of a bladed article due to extenuating circumstances......... Something the majority of you must never have heard of. The football match was played on fields a stones throw from my house. The park area covers just over 2 acres and is where i spent the majority of my youth and adolesence. The only difference to any other time when i wasnt breaking the law is that an organised sporting event was taking place. Why do you think i got away without even a fine? Tht type of offence carries a few years in prison max penalty. But all it got listed as was possesion of a bladed article due to extenuating circumstances......... Something the majority of you must never have heard of.

Very true. The difference? I was i was 17 and wasnt misrepresenting the facts on a forum to make someone look like a liar. This thread was to get advice on persuing my certificate. It says a lot about the majority of this websites patrons when it spirals into a debate about the legitimacy of my claims.

Your not allowed any knives at organised football games. A fixed knife or blade over 3 inches is an offensive weapons charge not a bladed article charge......the more you know the further you go buddy. Educate yourself.

Took it with me to watch sunday leauge match, got caught smoking weed. The rests history. Another time where asking for clarification would be more appropriate than questioning my honesty. Why would i be asking for opinions about a lie?

We broke into a house due for demolition, we broke into the seperate garage first which resulted in 2 offences. And burglary is breaking into a property with the intent of commiting crimes including but not limited to theft. I was caught due my friend graffiting *my name* shagged *her name* on the living room wall to mark me losing my virginity. I accepted whatever got me out of the cop shop. Theres now a 14 bedroom respite home where the house once was as it was demolished a short time later. But for the record i had no reason to explain to you. Your not the FLO your someone that called me a liar and essentially in the same breath insinuated that im a hardened criminal. I make no excuses for my youthful indiscretions but that is what they are and that is all they are. Out of interest why not ask for the particulars of the incident rather leave a derogatory comment regarding my honesty?

Im guna order a cheap one off of dhgate, 50 quids abit steep . I didnt think springers were big hitters, tbh i might jst take a coil or 2 off the spring if it dosnt sounds vastly over powered?? My grandad taught me how to tune a springer as a kid, i never assumed it to be a problem haha but then again he had an fac.

Fair play cheers mate, im phoning FLO today. Im not dangerous i just call people names sometimes. Guna give forums a wide birth from now on. This is why i didnt pursue a career in customer service. Peace out guys

Haha ok its a bad joke. (looks up price of chrono hurridely on amazon).

I'd challenge you to pistols a dawn but how would someone with an attitude like mine get a set of flippin pistols!?!

Yeah i thought i may of gone as far as i can but tinkering with my springer has become a way of life haha think im guna buy a silencer now though!. Might buy a cheap hatsan and see what i can do with that aswell. How do i get the ft lbs checked?? I know it was putting out 10.5 when i bought it. It shoots threw the side of an oil drum now so who knows.

If staying quiet whilst being called a lier is a pre-requisite of gun ownership, then im afraid your right, thats not me...never will be. And if you'd being paying attention you'd notice that I've took all the advice on board both negative and positive. But like i said call me a lier and ill call u names. i suppose the FLO would never consider someone like me if they knew the dirty truth of me calling someone names.

Iv had my HW80 for the best part of 10 years now and like to think its in good shape, but this model has been around a long time and im aware people have been tinkering with it just as long. I've done a little myself but would appreciate any input. In the last 6 months or so I've replaced the piston and breach seal, made a greased shim for the piston and installed a welsh willy drop in kit with delrin tophat, spring guide and power washers. I've also drilled the piston in strategic places to reduce weight, I've buffed and polished the piston the spring and the transfer port and also had the barrel honed. I'll be honest she shoots like a dream, i never plan on buying another air rifle. Im aware that iv already gone to great lengths to improve this rifle but good can always get better so all knowledge of tuning tikering or fettling a HW80 will be greatly appreciated.

Yeah i get what your saying guys but im still young, if my chat with the FLO doesn't go well ill just wait 4 or 5 years. Suppose its the price you pay for youthful indiscretions. The real irony of it all is that my crossbow makes more ft/lbs than an average 22lr and iv owned crossbows (albeit not as powerful as my predator) since i was 18. Thanks for the help guys, if all goes well expect gloating.

Yeah i plan to ring an have a chat with the firearms office about my chances. Tbh iv had a few people tell me that none of my cautions are relavent under the 'rehabilitation of offenders act' due to the length of time since my last offence. Who knows maybe all will be fine!

Thanks for the great advice guys, im guna apply next month and see what happens. If i get refused ill give it a few years and try again. Tbh it seems like people with real knowledge of gaining a certificate with convictions are quite confident. Im guna ring my local FEO and see what they say. Just to clarify the bladed article was a non locking work knife, of less than 3 inches or i would of been convicted of possesion of an offensive weapon. And the 2 burglarys were me and my mates partying in a houses due for demolition (15 years ago, as a child). Out of interest does anyone know how west yorkshire firearms licensing office compare to the rest of the country? I'm told theres a good degree of difference in how different forces interpret the legislation. Thanks again guy you've all been a great help.

Hey guys, first post here but been a fan of the site for a long time. After years of enjoying taget shooting with slingshots/bows/crossbows/air rifles, iv recently taken an interest in firearms and plan to pursue my SGC/FAC. I started going clay pigeon shooting every few weeks, and going to a shooting range once a month or so. I live in a rural area where its not uncommon for people to aquire there licenses. The only problem i see myself facing is that i have 2 cautions for burglary when i was 13 years old. 2 cautions for cannabis, one when i was 17 and one when i was 20. And a caution for possesion of a bladed article when i was 17. (wow that sounds bad when its written down). Im now 28 years old, i live with my partner of 8 years, we have a 4 year old daughter and i run my own business. Needless to say im a reformed individual, but i worry that the police wont see it that way. Its my understanding that if you spend 3 years or less in prison that you are only banned for 5 years from owning firearms, considering that most of my cautions were from 10-15 years ago and that iv never even been to court what are my chances of been accepted???? Opinions welcome but what id really like is someone with direct knowledge of gaining an FAC or SGC with similar criminal history. Thanks guys.