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11 hours ago, Ausgunner said:
Lower quality steel and tolerances
Machining is ok but overall geometry and finishing is much lower
cheap coatings
The wood although can look nice is not dense at all. wouldn't be surprised if they stained them to appear a higher grade than they are.
Paper thin top rib weird mid rib design. Front heavy
Triggers are very budget. The gap is decent between them
but the main thing here is these atas will not last a lifetime. they are built as a throwaway item,
i am not trying to say they are rubbish
Please excuse my ignorance, but reading the post, that is precisely what you are trying to say.
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On 26/03/2021 at 08:59, bruno22rf said:
AA do what they do because they do it so well, produce superb PCP's at a reasonable price that, in the real world, will match just about any Air Rifle on the market, yet they get slated for being boring and unimaginative. The market for springers has diminished at the price point where AA would have to market any gun that they have to design and manufacture, dont foget that they refuse to buy into the "assembled from cheap foriegn parts" market. So releasing a Spring gun to a limited market at a price point that you could buy a decent multi shot PCP for and putting your reputation on the line at the same time, I would imagine is not at the top of their priority list. Why do people not keep harrasing Daystate to release a springer? It's always AA.
Not going to disagree with what you say on their pcp guns, I have one, it’s superb. I’m not slating AA at all, just an observation. The market for springers has diminished somewhat however its still there. My local club millride has an air rifle range, which I have used on occasion, virtually to a man everyone has a pcp AND a springer. If daystate did make a spring gun, I wouldn’t buy one based on my previous experience, but if AA made a break barrel I would buy one based on my previous experience.
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On 25/03/2021 at 07:12, oldypigeonpopper said:
Hello, well made but my least favourite spring air rifle, I have often said why do not AA make a springer like the HW 99 , 👍
Agree 100%. If AA made a nice, light break barrel (similar to the HW95) I’m sure it would be a success. I like the build quality of AA springers, but they are a heavy lump and I also find the loading of them to be a pain, particularly .177 on a cold day. I have a 95 which was an absolute dog out of the box, it runs lovely now after fitting a TBT kit, but I shouldn’t have to do that on a brand new gun. The internals on AA are exceptionally well put together and as I would expect from new.
A real missed opportunity by AA in my opinion.
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Now sold.
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One Teague chokes case. Unwanted Xmas gift, 12g
£10 plus £2.50 p&p. Collection available from Shropshire.
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One invector plus choke 1/4 12g for browning/Miroku
£35 plus £2.50 p&p. Collection from Shropshire if wanted.
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Sold subject to collection.
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Two Invector plus chokes for sale. These are the stainless steel extended version(not super extended)
Two skeet
3 months old and very limited use as the wife bought me the wrong ones for Xmas. £52 each plus p&p direct from Teague.
£35 each or £60 for a pair. £2.50 p&p
Please PM me for further details.
Cheers.
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2 hours ago, London Best said:
Three thousand cartridges is not very many at all! See what you think when it has fired three hundred thousand. And I’ve said it before that the easiest way to sell most people a cheaply made gun is to put some pretty wood on it. This is somehow perceived as making the gun a quality item.
300k carts, you must be very well off indeed.
That’s 1200 slabs
I pay £56 per slab
£67,200 in carts.
This is my point in a nutshell, clay shooting is expensive. I personally can’t afford £67,200 on my hobby, but if I could then I wouldn’t be using an £800 gun. I wonder if ATA put the same fence post wood onto their guns that all the “top” makes do on their entry level guns what people would find to criticise?
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7 hours ago, Ausgunner said:
The beretta connection is beretta owns stoegor, who ata makes barrels for, and if you do your homework stoegors have had many many issues with barrels and monoblocks etc, ata are good for the money, but put one on a table and compare it piece by piece to a new or old miroku, beretta, browning, winchester etc and there is a huge gap, the materials, tooling, qualitu control, coatings and overall geometry is nowhere near as good, yes good for the money but people need to accept they are made to a very low budget, good backup gun or casual/beginner gun, but i always say buy used quality over new cheap
Not sure about that, my wife’s has had about 3k through it now and has performed flawlessly, so the material and manufacturing must be good, I suspect QC has had some problems. The wood on hers (and many others) makes my MK70 and Mk38 look like a fence post. I have previous stated that the ones I picked up had issues and were returned (but the damage could have been done in proof) but then again my MK70 has also had problems from new. A couple of pals now have Supersports and they love them and I’m seriously considering another. COVID has shown me that I have 4K worth of guns just gathering dust, and if anyone thinks it’s going away then they need to rethink that. I don’t mind having £800 gathering dust.
Only time will tell if they have longevity, but it would seem that they are proving reliable so far. IMO they are a good cut above Koffs, marginally better than Yildiz (but not on the small gauges)Clay shooting is expensive and I’m all for getting more people into the sport, if any manufacturers can produce a product that can get more people into the sport on a shoe string, then that gets the thumbs up from me.
Just my 10p worth👍
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Thanks for all the pointers, I have been using AA fields and it seems to like them. I was looking fwd to a few more shots today but the wind has been bad here, looks set for some poor weather for the next few days so hope get it out again next week.
Cheers All.
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Just before xmas i was thinking about buying a PCP for some plinking in the garden. Went down to Bradleys angling and guns at Millride and had a look at S400/S410/S510r. After some deliberation and costings I opted for the S400 as I couldn't justify the extra expense as i was buying the whole outfit including a bottle. TBH I wasn't expecting much as it was the cheapest of the 3, but I am hugely impressed with this little gun. I have to admit that loading .177 individually for each shot was a pain in the a@@@ so i bought a rowan engineering multi shot adapter. Maybe my expectations were too low because of the costs compared to the others, but what a phenomenal bit of kit it is. The engineering seems to be top rate, its well put together and nice to shoot. Cant shoot/miss clays at the moment so I have put a couple of tins through it so far.
My question to the font of knowledge on PW is there a catch with this gun? Should I be looking out for any failure points or is just excellent value for money. My pcp knowledge is quite poor so any info/advice would be greatly appreciated.
Many Thanks
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On 07/03/2021 at 10:52, Lloyd90 said:
What about all the other public service workers who have gone above and beyond during all this?
Agreed, the military has been working extremely hard behind the scenes. We have got 0%, for the last 10 years we have got 1%, without complaint. The AFPRB ( total wasted of time ) was told, IMO, what funds were available the produced a report recommending 1% year on year. What really boils my blood was to hear the chancellor stating that the finances were in a good position prior to COVID-19, if that was the case why did we get 1% ( along with other public sectors, other than MP’s) for 10 years.
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16 hours ago, Walker570 said:
I may be needing a new shotgun come the new 2021 season. Choices choices.... in 410 gauge. Bettinsoli, Rizzini, Browning or should I go for what I have now Yilditz or any other suggestions. I have been put of KOFs by comments on here. There is a nice looking Parker Hale hammer on offer but it is down in Kent. Would be nice to shoot a hammer again and it has 28 inch barrels where I like 30s but, if it felt right I would have it. Getting my hands on it to try it is the problem at the moment. Thoughts
I purchased a new bettinsoli. 410 last year, 30” with 14.8 lop. Lovely thing to shoot and look at, unfortunately the trigger packed up within a month so it was returned for a full refund. Perhaps mine was a bad one? I certainly won’t buy one again and will look a little harder at Lincoln next time.
Best of luck with the search.
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Most shops have closed in my area. I have recently purchased from an RFD, the official line was “essential vermin control”
If it falls into that category, it’s not an issue.
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5 hours ago, Gerry78 said:
You will get good shooting out of FRANCHI for half the price the mate shot one on foreshore for years with good effect 👍I like browning but think there trying too hard the original maxus in my opinion is better looking gun
Fully agree with you there. I like the look and feel of the Maxus Mk1 and shot reasonably well with mine. Looking fwd to the arrival of the new one, it seems Franchi/Benelli have taken on board all the points that needed improvement. Larger loading port, larger bolt handle and bolt release handle. The reviews from the USA are all good and the dimensions are virtually identical to the old one, so fingers crossed.
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On 26/01/2021 at 19:02, bluesj said:
looking at a new watch for work as the hands have fallen of my old one! (don't think it was recoil proof 😜)
With this in mind I was looking at possibly a G shock, I like the look of the mud masters if a bit on the big side. I don't need all the bells and whistles of the top of the range ones but I do like the big hands and numbers (eyes not what they where). Anyone got one, is it any good and was it worth the extra cost of the more ordinary G shocks?
And does anyone know why all watches in adds are set for Sunday 30th June?
How much do you want to spend?
Nite make a range of watches that are robust to say the least. Nite are, IMO, some of the best watches that no one has ever heard of apart from us military types. The MX10 used to be issued, but sadly no longer. Mine has been hammered in many environments and simply refuses to give up.
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18 hours ago, Gerry78 said:
I don’t like the look of them think they look like the Winchester SX Series Il just stick with my beretta xplor
I had been tipped the wink by an RFD that the maxus 2 was on the way in December, so waited until the official pictures came out. I have to agree, it looks like a very close clone of the SX4 but for significantly more money.
Ordered one of these, delivery is forecasted to be Apr/May this year, New Affinity 3.
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Sorry, I cant choose just 1, I’m a seasonal shooter/ drinker.
On a cold winters day I like today I like a nice pint of mild, a nice steady beer. I like to shoot my MK70 a nice steady gun.
On a damp winters day doing walked up I like a nice nip of Drambui to warm up, I like to miss everything with my S/S which has a warming effect.
On a warm spring day I like a nice glass of red, a refined drink. When shooting clays I like to shoot my MK38, a nice refined gun.
On a hot summers day nothing beats a refreshing pint of cider, the strong, mad variety. I like to use my semi for every type of shooting in the summer for the same reason.
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52 minutes ago, sam triple said:
As above it’s out have your say ,I have wasn’t favourable
Thanks for the heads up. Lots of scores of 1 from me.
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21 hours ago, London Best said:
Life is not a rehearsal. We are only going round once. I packed up working full time at 53 mostly so I could go picking up or loading between 3 to 6 days / week, quite apart from my own shooting / stalking. Yes, I would have been richer had I continued to work but I had 12 years with , to me, a wonderful lifestyle.
12 years ago I had 2 jobs and was raking in over 120k, then it all went down the toilet. Everything I had been breaking my back for was “given” to the now Ex. I ended up potless owing 40k in solicitors bills trying to keep my kids (in vain). Back to 2 jobs to dig myself out of debt then more tragedies ensued. Your post is absolutely spot on, life is not a rehearsal and needs to be gripped and cherished, but people who have not experienced tragedy will quote the phrase, but not follow it. I’m retiring in 18 months ( the day before my 50th ) and will have paid off my modest mortgage. I intend to do as little as possible, spend as much time with the kids and go shooting with my pal as often as I can.
Always makes me smile when thinking about the lengthy study in Norway to find what really makes people happy, the results were conclusively, low expectations.
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Don't forget to keep the pin feathers for bragging rights. Went out boxing day and bagged a nice brace of pheasants, on the walk in I bagged a woodcock. I was shooting Skeet/Skeet and Lyvale ultimate power 32g No.7.
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Hermes......simply the worst courier service going has excelled yet again. The “agent” decided to launch my parcel over the fence into a completely different house on Monday. He then used his PDA to GEO tag the parcel and vanished sending me an email saying “your parcel has been delivered” After spending an age on the phone trying to speak to an actual human, the “representative” in her very best broken English could not get her head around that I did not have my parcel, because the PDA is saying delivered. Fortunately the bloke who owned the house had the decency to realise the parcel was not his and returned it to me, some would not have done that.
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Having size 12 feet, I have always struggled to get shoes. Usually the shops/online retailers have more choice of size 14 than 12. My recent purchase of slippers were the usual last ones on the shelf and fell to bits in quick time. I remarked to Mrs Taileron that this has happened and she has excelled herself.
She has purchased me a pair of memory foam slippers, has anyone else tried these bad boys? Another level of comfort, I actually put them on and found myself groaning with comfort, like an old dog getting comfortable in his bed. Currently half price in the Debenhams sale, get a pair and join me in old F@@t comfort land, you won’t regret it.
Oh no! ATA Supersport
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That’s precisely how I read it as well.