Fellside

You can’t harm it by undoing the bolt. I’ve taken loads of wet guns apart. Extremely dry wood is a much worse risk than this. Having said that, if our OP can get some support from the gun shop…… fair enough….. but I don’t think they will sort it. To our OP: If in the unlikely event his stock does not return to normal, a new ATA stock should only cost £135 via Sportsman. I have just ordered one (for an entirely different reason). So quite a reasonable price.

Yes I agree. P.S you’ll need a 10 mm long socket. These Turkish guns have a 10mm bolt head.

A couple of weeks ago I was using a 20 bore for pigeoning. My cartridges were 21 gram UK 7 1/2. Hull ‘pro twenty’ to be precise, fibre of course. Anything within about 35 yards was folding nicely (when I did my bit). As the birds were decoying well, I didn’t find this range limiting at all. Not sure I’d use them for flight line shooting at the rangier stuff, or for larger quarry, but great for pigeon decoying. I’m uncertain re the velocity of these cart’s, but they seemed quick and I’m sure that helped. Also pleasant to shoot - virtually zilch recoil. P.S The chokes were cylinder and a quarter.

Here too.

It’s complicated. Let’s just say some roads are owned by private land owners and some aren’t. Many minor country roads started as farm trackways, which ended up being tarred and managed by highways. In this case they are still running over private land today. Other more major roads built via compulsory land purchase ‘in the national interest’ are not privately owned. As ever, there isn’t a clear yes or no….! If only it was that simple.

I’ve been here before with Express. It was a strange experience! I wont buy anything they make now.

If it’s a smooth cartridge your after - your Hull option might be the best one. Why not try a few boxes of this and that before committing to a bulk purchase.

How about Gamebore’s Evo? They are good for the price.

Yes - did see that re TTs. Have to say my TT Two, which I think predate the Express manufacturing, have been great.

Fair enough re Rossa’s. I think it will take time for the good stock from Fiocchi Italy to sell through. I am getting through a thousand Italian TT Two fibres - they are nothing short of brilliant. Just wonder what the quality control will be like when Express start turning them out…..? I already have some alternatives in mind.

Not surprised if made by Express. Shame, I’ve used thousands of Fiocchi cart’s - not sure I will chance them now.

Indeed.

In answer to the topic title: NO! The very notion is a load of scaremongering nonsense. Any discussion of all firearms being banned etc is a waste of hot air. It hasn’t happened in any other European country. Even Denmark, which has many restrictions, still has a strong shooting community. We might get thumped with a few more costs (?!), but whoever said shooting was a cheap sport?

If the GLs appear confusing and contradictory in parts - that’s because they are written that way to avoid legal challenge. The various shooting org’s have done their due diligence (as have I) and the GLs have been thoroughly ‘field tested’ so to speak - and pigeons are very much still on the menu. There has not been any significant change. For further clarification have a look at the BASC website - it is quite helpful. Hope you enjoy your shooting.

Yes agreed - clay shooting can be expensive. I often take my sons plus school friends to the local clay ground, and the costs mount up if you dare to do the maths, which I try not to….?! However, taking them beating or vermin shooting costs very little. Sometimes I think they just need to be shown an open door in to country ways and this often proves the catalyst for a life long involvement. That’s how I got started. It just takes someone to make the effort.