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  1. It is unfortunately also possible for media outlets and key opinion leaders to cherry pick it’s effects. So now the issues (or non issues) are swirling around in the dark murky waters of politics……?!
  2. Hi Rewulf, It was banned for shooting wildfowl in England and Wales. Scotland banned it over Wetlands - a much more sensible approach really. The law is sometimes an **s as they say…..?!
  3. You raise some interesting points Gas seal. I take some encouragement from your experience re steel doing the job. About buzzards - I’ve often pondered any effects re lead shot pigeons. I do a lot of pigeon shooting in my area and often when I finish the day, I have a walk beneath near by trees or woods. My dog loves to find the odd pricked bird which has dropped off its perch. Increasingly over the years there is only the headless body and the breast meat gone and feathers everywhere - i.e a buzzard has feasted on it. They are so numerous and bold now, they will even start ripping in to a pigeon as soon as it comes down in a neighbouring field. I have no empirical data of course, but anecdotally, I don’t observe any impact re their lead shot ingestion. Certainly it hasn’t negatively effected population growth as their numbers have increased massively.
  4. Good, glad you remember. I know that this thread is about lead ammunition - which has been done to death - but it’s about much more than that too. What we all seem to agree on, is that shooting needs a good reputation re Jo public, who only ever gets fed the occasional sound bite. We have to ensure that the majority of those sound bites are positive. My main point is that the use of lead in shooting is to them an obscure and seldom mentioned aspect - i.e not on their radar. Other issues, much capitalised upon by the antis, such as those I’ve mentioned, form a more urgent priority. What we, the orgs and all, need to do is to become more proactive in generating positive PR stories, rather than being constantly caught in a defensive position.
  5. I’ve covered the points you’ve mentioned - especially re witnessing etc. My conscience is clear. Short memory..?!
  6. P.S The antis have been highly vocal re dumping - videos and photos etc. I was going to post some links here, but it makes for tedious reading. Just google the words pheasant dumping if you really must. They seemed to peak in about 2019. Hopefully it isn’t such an issue now.
  7. If you don’t mention your shooting to non field sports contacts - you’re not likely to hear about their concerns. The dumping excess bags (mostly exaggerated) issue was hot a while ago, and a point raised to me by several people, but has since cooled somewhat. If you understand the shooting world….as I’m sure you do… you might not think it so strange that no one is prepared to demonstrate evidence re excess bags etc. on a public forum. As I emphasised in our last discussion, we all know it has occurred, if we’re prepared to be open and honest. Hopefully, due to the stink it caused (no pun intended) things are in better shape.
  8. We have a lot of incomers in my part of the world too. Some are as you describe, but realise after a couple of years that they are surrounded by farming and shooting activities and eventually normalise it. Actually some of them, quite a few, site the country sports opportunities as their main reason for moving to the country. So I do think there is a mix. There was one extreme exception however - a woman who bought a small cottage on the outskirts of the village. She had the police out to a farmhand muck spreading. She objected to the smell…?! The rather forthright farm owner told her and the police never to interrupt his employee’s job ever again. The following year she had the police out to a chap shooting pigeons on OSR about two fields away. Again nothing illegal for the police to follow up. The police soon got fed up and asked her not to waste further police time unless she was reporting an actual crime. She then moved away. Fortunately, in my area anyway, this kind of attitude seems to be unusual.
  9. I don’t mind you disagreeing at all Rewulf. It’s interesting to gauge the opinions of others. I have always been very up front about my shooting. If people I meet through work, or any other walk of life, are chatting about their weekends etc. They’ll talk about their golf or whatever, I will quite openly tell them that I went shooting. I have only ever come across one Packham type, but he was so ill informed, it was quite easy to counter his opinions. Nearly every person has been fine. The only objections I’ve really had have not been about the killing of ‘poor little fluffy creatures’. They’ve been about the press reporting excess bags of pheasants being dumped. It’s surprising how much this apparent waste has touched a nerve. Never over the years have I had feedback about lead….not once. I don’t think it’s a deal breaker, or even something that most folk give a damn about.
  10. I don’t find that ‘society in general’ are against what we do. It’s easy to get that impression sometimes with the various attacks and media bias at times - especially the BBC. However it’s a relatively small minority of very loud extremists and antis who are making most of the noise.
  11. Gordon, it might be an idea to move to a new practice, or at least you and your friends could threaten to do so. GP practices are partly financed on the size of their patient list…!! You might find they suddenly become a lot more shooting friendly.
  12. Your spot on Rob85 re fat being beneficial for energy levels. I won’t bore you with the science - but concentrated sugar causes hyperglycaemia (as it does in humans actually). So basically a short term boost in energy followed by a pronounced low. It’s the low that causes problems. Trends come and go in working dog circles, but I’m glad the Mars bar one has more or less gone. Fat gives a longer sustained energy output. Having said that, a fit spaniel, with its stamina well developed, should have no problem working all day long.
  13. Please don’t take this as criticism - just trying to help. Dogs don’t usually collapse because because blood sugar levels are low. This is really imposing human physiological assumptions on a completely different animal. Snacking won’t help. If you consider wild dogs, they can hunt perfectly well by eating on average every 48 hours, and can go much longer. If spaniels collapse it’s normally because they are unfit and/or dehydrated - or have an underlying health challenge. Giving them food on a working day will make them worse if anything. I would recommend a chat with a vet who has a specialist interest in nutrition. I’ve never known a vet recommend snacks on a working day however.
  14. Ha ha - yes we would all like to be fitter Aled. To be honest though, feeding during a working day will burden the dog if anything. I have always found with spaniels (that’s all I’ve really known) that if they benefit from a fatty feed the night before they work. I use lamb lap, the lamb belly, cut in to strips and fed with a high quality kibble. The lamb lap is about 70% fat. This is high octane hunting fuel for spaniels. Their after work recovery food is equally important. Many people will have their own favourite food and reasoning. I use a lot of protein, usually wood pigeon breast, again with a good kibble. That’s all I can offer. P.S Yes agree - Dave’s point re water is important.
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