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Many of my fathers friends have told me stories of my father's shooting ability at running coyotes. These came from men who hunt continuously and take 20 or more coyotes in any given winter. These shots were said to be from very far out.
One day I challenged him on this so he went and got out his old rifle. He steadied the rifle and shot three times successively from a rest, at a target placed at a measured 200yds distant. When the firing stopped we went to check. All three shots were roughly one inch, center to center.
The Scope? a 1980's production Weaver fixed 6 power.
I obtained my Swiss K31 and bought a box of Hornady ammo for it. A buddy and I were sighting in for deer season. The old military rifle had no scope whatsoever. The four shot groups were 1.5 inch center to center at 100yds. Nothing outside of that measure. I've seen better shooters with these rifles shoot one inch groups at 100 yds sans scope.
My thought: YES we tend to buy and use more magnification than is necessary.
"Aim small... miss small"
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Your right on the Garand technically its like this: Load, slap, bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang, TING! Reload (Watch your thumb!) If eight shots of 30-06 won't kill it your in deep ****.
In order from top
Savage 17 HMR
Russian Tula 1951 SKS
Sprinfield M1 Garand WWII vintage
Swiss Schmidt Rubin K31 rifle. (most accurate)
If you don't have a K31 I highly recommend getting one. Very good rifle. Mine shoots 1- 1.5 inch groups with the Hornady 165 grain ammo at 100 yds.
Next I am looking at several old military rifles including a 1903A3. However, there's something that makes my stomach turn about the thought of having a Nazi rifle under my roof although I concede that the early K98's were a work of art.
Thanks for the info on the AIA rifles I may make a call or email to determine availability and price.
Sounds like youve got some very good knowledge of rifles!
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I owned a Winchester SX2 and loved it. I had the 3" version and it chambered the light loads every time, no malfunctions whatsoever. Very light and accurate shotgun. It would be my choice over the Franchi any day. I also owned a Benelli and in some ways the Winchester was superior. Very much more shooter-friendly. Also easy to clean and maintain. Every once in awhile run a small brush or pipe cleaner through the gas port in the barrel.
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I looked around the US here for one of those AIA new manufacture Lee Enfields and could find no importer hence I think they are unavailable. Looks like they are available in east and west Canada. Nice looking rifles though. I wrote an email to a distributor to consider importing these and making them available.
Currently bidding on one here in the US and have the bid for 85 USD but I am sure the bidding will increase the final price possibly above my top bid. The rifles I have seen are nice but not quite the quality of the rifle in your picture. They all have some degree of wear on the stocks and the flip up rear apertures instead of the rear ladder sight. What kind of groups have you shot with these? I am guessing less than 2 M.O.A.?
Here are my latest four additions to the rifle rack.
Can you name all four?
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lee enfields are fantastic rifles and i know first hand that any made in the UK,Canada,Australia,South Africa, and the Irish contract ones are all made very well and will shoot very acceptable groups, There was many also made in India on British tooling but dont know the quality of steel or wood but might be ok, and i know savage arms out of the USA made lee enfield rifles for China and the above mentiond British and British commonwealth armies during WW2. you can buy brand new remakes from AIA in Australia, and I think gibbsons arms out of the USA, below are the listed new Australian models and my fathers no4 lonbranch arsenals Canadian made model dated 1944 and was issued to the Canadian Black Watch Highland Infantry Regiment great little piece, However they are old rifled and if you get a well used one it may shoot for the s--ts and if it is a sportorized one dont pay more than 100 US
Wow! excellent post! Nice new production rifles too. I didn't even know about these. I am not even sure if I have seen them for sale in the US. I think the match model might be a great trainer for a young shooting competitor. Seems like the war surplus rifles are going for about $150-250 US here.
Anyone know of a web site where you can do serial number searches for historical information on a particular rifle?
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lee enfields are fantastic rifles and i know first hand that any made in the UK,Canada,Australia,South Africa, and the Irish contract ones are all made very well and will shoot very acceptable groups, There was many also made in India on British tooling but dont know the quality of steel or wood but might be ok, and i know savage arms out of the USA made lee enfield rifles for China and the above mentiond British and British commonwealth armies during WW2. you can buy brand new remakes from AIA in Australia, and I think gibbsons arms out of the USA, below are the listed new Australian models and my fathers no4 lonbranch arsenals Canadian made model dated 1944 and was issued to the Canadian Black Watch Highland Infantry Regiment great little piece, However they are old rifled and if you get a well used one it may shoot for the s--ts and if it is a sportorized one dont pay more than 100 US
Wow! excellent post! Nice new production rifles too. I didn't even know about these. I am not even sure if I have seen them for sale in the US. I think the match model might be a great trainer for a young shooting competitor. Seems like the war surplus rifles are going for about $150-250 US here.
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Hello,
I've got the high bid right now on a Lee Enfield #4 Mark I here in the states. Anyone here care to share any info regarding these great British rifles? I'm slowly getting my WWII collection together.
Regards
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Interesting reading, this comming from one US citizen. Things are vastly different between our two contries in some respects. One of them is not the people involved. I am surprised how much your interests in rifles and shooting are similar to ours. A little dismayed at the difference in laws. I would probly have some things to say over a beer that I would not type here.
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What would your ideal spec for a scope be for a .17HMR?
What objective, mag range and tube size?
Simple question but no right answer I suspect.
Not too worried about make at this stage, just the spec for performance.
Thanks
Jerry
I have a Weaver rimfire 2.5-7 power with a 1 inch tube and 32 millimeter objective. Perfect for the rifle. Light weight and 7 power is plenty of magnification for the distances at which the 17 can be reliably implemented for hunting. I can shoot one-hole groups with it at 50 yds and 1 inch groups at 100 yards.
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If you want an accurate 22-250 varmint rifle from Remington, you might also consider the new 700 light varmint which has a 22 inch fluted stainless barrel if I remember correctly. They are bedded in a synthetick stock and are completely rigid. Never fired one but I think they would be very accurate, handy, and light enough to carry all day.
The old Ruger M77 varmint rifles had a medium contour 24 inch barrel. I have one and so does my dad. They are truly great old rifles. Of course if you can afford the Sako 75, a Grey Wolf would be a great addition to anyone's collection.
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Interesting you mention sporting clays, I read sporting is having a bit of a surge in popularity over there?
I read an article on the world sporting which mentioned a few years ago sporting in America was like "skeet in the woods" which I thought was a great way of describing it, but I hear these days there are massive very technical sporting layouts and grounds?
Sporting clays is on the rise here. The course here is pretty big, it is 10 stations in a large circle covering probly 10 acres. The clays are shot out in singles, true pairs or report pairs. The clay throwers are positioned so that the clays can go in any direction and some are perched on top of poles some 20 meters tall so as to simulate high flying birds. Some tumble along the ground and are called "rabbits". While most around here are good at the high shots I am better at the rabbit shots.
We have some of the best waterfowl hunting in the states here or so I am told. Thousands of Canadian geese, Snow geese, and ducks of all kinds: Mallards, Gadwall, Pintail, Teal, Northern Shovelers etc.
The culture of hunting and shooting in the UK is interesting because of the history of hunting in the country and the images or stigma such things represent.
I can tell you that in the western United States where I grew up, shooting and hunting are not only a sport, they are necessary for survival. Almost every man is a hunter or shooter to the point where the distinction is unnecessary, it is assumed. I might be one generation removed from those days, but I was taught as a child how to clean game and fish and we ate everything we took. I was a child but I knew well my great grandfather who homesteaded the plains here. The men who owned it before him, hunted buffalo with bow and arrow.
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Thanks for the replies. Nice to feel welcome.
Not sure what some of those species of deer are, but I have heard of the red deer or stag.
My family homesteaded NE around 1918 and now my cousins still have the ranch. Something like 1000 head of cattle. My dad has about 10 acres which is large enough to do a little shooting there. I grew up hunting every day after school, now I work and have a child and live in an apartment in town so all my shooting is done at the local range.
Its pretty easy to buy and own firearms here in the US right now, but the future is not looking too bright in that regard. 8 years of the cowboy from Crawford TX has the gun ban folks on the march.
We don't have to register them or have a special license. We do have to pass a background check and there are restriction regarding interstate sales and how you may transport your rifles.
Darned nice rifles some of you have, some of which are pretty uncommon or unheard of here in the States.
I hope to acquire a nice target rifle like the Sako Varmint or Cooper rifle as well as a nice Semi auto shotgun for trap and sporting clays as well as for hunting.
Weihrauch HW60J .17Hmr with 15" Barrel & ASE Utra sound Mod - 6.5 - 20 x 50mm Hawke Nighteye IR Mil
What rifle is this? pictures? An example of one pretty rare here.
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Hello,
I'm new to the forum and am from Nebraska USA. I was wondering about the types of rifles and shotguns shot in the UK and what types of hunting you do? I could post some pics of mine.
Ruger M77V 6mm Rem. 1985 manufacture Leupold VXIII
Ruger M77 Mark II .223 Weaver V9
Russian SKS Tula 1952
Swiss K31 Walnut stock
Springfield M1 Garand 30-06 (WWII)
Winchester XTR 1300 12 Ga.
Remington 870 Trap 12 Ga.
Savage 17 HMR Weaver Rimfire Scope 2-7X
Savage 20 Guage
Mossberg Bolt Action 410 Ga.
I mostly hunt coyotes, mule deer, white tail deer, pheasants, sharp-tailed grouse, mourning dove, prairie chicken, prairie dogs, squirrels and rabbits.
I would someday like to hunt Big horned sheep in the western part of Nebraska or possibly elk.
What hunting is to be done over there?
Testing the waters: .17 or .22 (CZ452)
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How about shooting your rabbits and squirrels with a dead on hold out to 300 meters?
Check this out:
http://www.remington.com/products/ammuniti...on_Fireball.asp