Sweet11-87
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Really dont worry about it. Its to increase to 2.5% by 2030. NATO has historically wanted all nations at a minimum of 2% We currently spend 2.2% and were spending 2.5% in 2009 and were spending 5.5% in the 1980s. The 500 mil aid package for Ukraine will mostly be spend on developing our infrastructure to supply the Ukrainians further down the line.
its the global equivalent of saying youve got 10k to help your brother out who's struggling but you use it to buy yourself a new car to take him to work sometimes.
stock of lockheed, BAE, rheinmetall, leonardo or thales. all more than doubled since this kicked off.
we still traded with russia to the value of 2.2 billion last year. and most EU nations a hell of allot more.
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some powder can degrade over the years and become more "pokey" think most powders in modern use are made so that they get less so as they degrade. no idea what was happening 30 years ago but ive seen videos on youtube of old ammo being way over the safe limit
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was made and sold under licence in the uk in the early 2000s as the logun gemini aswell. good airguns
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1 hour ago, London Best said:
Yeah, but the season ticket to watch football is a waste of money.
Thinking about it, I am sure I haven’t spent anywhere near that much on clay shooting in the last sixty plus years!
Please can you make my next season’s game shooting cost just £800 instead of £800/day?just so irrelevant to the thread.
back on topic
one way you may find out more information is to contact basc. i dont know if theyll give you time of day if youre a none member but they can be contacted still and may give you better guidance than you might find on here.
https://basc.org.uk/firearms-licensing/
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old bed sheet or any large fabric, mix petrol or any other thinner and bathroom clear 100% silicone into a paint consistency, lay it out paint it on let it dry. very heavy duty waterproofed tarps.
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57 minutes ago, clangerman said:
with an air rifle I would count using real birds almost essential they give far bigger success rate
or set up a hide in woodland with heavy ivy and just knock em out the trees if its just an air rifle
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1 hour ago, London Best said:
Come on! Of course it is. I recently learned hat a season ticket for a local football stadium can be over £800. No comparison.
if you could make my clay shooting cost £800 from august to may id pay you for it now
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i once painted a bunch of old shells, that were more blue than grey much to the amusement of some on this forum. they worked very well, no idea if it was the spectrum the birds see in, the contrast, just lucky or other factors but the result was good shooting.
the thread will be on here in the search function no doubt.
found it
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application is around £80, medical can be anywhere from free to £150 and safes that will pass inspection for as little as £200 off ebay. So if all goes well its a ticket in your hand for roughly £300-£500 quid.
1000 cartridges is about £300 and climbing and 1000 clays is about the same and also going up. its not a cheap hobby to get into
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perhaps if people just asked square honest questions you'd get square honest answers that would benefit all.
loading the questions,sledging,baiting and back handed insults is getting nothing resolved for any of you and its burying any question, answers or information of value.
cheers lads
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unfortunately its not an easy question to answer as you have allot of factors.
1. you need to assess your own state and be honest with yourself (dont share on here as its a personal thing) how severe your depression is/was, what were the causes and if they still have an impact if your depression had/has a cause at all. is/was medication involved.
2. the nature of your charge. again dont share on here, was it a dynamic drunken out of character teenage even, or was this a pre meditated event in adult life or somewhere inbetween?.
and as others have said above a honest straight forward conversation with your FAO not only allows you to sound them out, but it also shows considerable maturity, grown and awareness of the situation and can really only stand you in a better position.
being completely honest about what i think your chances are and in the current climate id say 1/5 chance but honestly best of luck mate, life's hard and its everyone first go at it and the past is exactly that imo
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On 15/04/2024 at 16:22, London Best said:
You need to realise that these are only the entry level guns from these makers, built to a price so that they can carry a prestigious name. The better guns from these firms cost many tens of thousands of pounds each!
thats misleading a 680 action is a 680 action. all youre paying for is cosmetic bar some hand finishing and polishing that gives it no better feel to a well broken in gun. yes the EELL is a very attractive gun but its still just a silver pig tarted up. no greater example of diminishing returns than in the gun world with grades of the same model.
each to their own but the 686 onyx in matt black is the most eye catching one in the line and its probably the most basic they ever made bar the essential.
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6 minutes ago, Konor said:
Is it not ludicrous that we are in a position where arguably the least welcome person on the forum is actually a representative of an organisation that’s aims are to protect our (shooters) best interests. Is there a two sentence insight that can explain how that can be possible ?
Bit strong mate, agreed he’s worded a few of his post different to what I’d of done but if he calls it a day on pigeon watch what’s achieved?
he’s butted heads with a few people on here and resolved it in a phone call.
I’ve not seen anyone else from basc rock up to get involved. Atleast he’s willing to comment.
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8 minutes ago, Conor O'Gorman said:
Q1. the voluntary basc transition away from single use plastic and lead for game. how voluntary is it?. its year 5 of 5 and some progress has been made but realistically its not looking like a complete transition will be achieved not even close so what its the consequence of that?. to my knowledge basc are an organization not a governing body, if its decided by the majority of the shooting community to ignore this transition out side of a cautionary tale what can basc actually impose? am i correct in thinking this isnt and wont be law?A1. the voluntary transition away from lead shot and single use plastics for live quarry is completely voluntary. Nine organisations announced it in 2020 and have been encouraging the transition since then. BASC has been hosting events called sustainable shooting days where participants can try a range of latest cartridges loaded with non-lead and non-plastic wads in their own guns - initially 12 bore and then 20 bore. The initial target was 5 years and progress has been made but with Covid and Ukraine war and other factors more time is needed in terms of cartridges. However, its also about a change in awareness and attitudes - such as why the move away from lead shot is a positive move - and that alternatives like steel shot can be used in a much wider variety of guns that people realise. The shooting organisations encouraging the voluntary transition are not the government and cannot make laws to impose it.
Q2. whats the score with this HSE matter? where are we at now i know that is being pushed to be a legal ban however it seems to keep deferring and stalling and to my knowledge is a EU proposal thats now been scraped in the EU. how is the wind blowing with this is it looking like a matter of time or is this starting to loose traction?. when has this been pushed back too?
A2. In 2021, a year after the voluntary transition was announced the government tasked the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) with the responsibility of reviewing chemicals under new regulations called UK REACH which mirrors similar processes in the EU. This was because of the Brexit deal. The first two chemicals to be reviewed were lead in ammunition and ink in tatoos, mirroring similar reviews in the EU. The HSE has since been reviewing dozens of more chemicals, again all mirroring EU reviews - all part of ensuring workable post-Brexit trade with EU on chemicals. The initial HSE proposals on lead in ammunition, consulted on in 2022, were for a total ban on the recreational use of lead ammunition outdoors. BASC and other orgs challenged the evidence and encouraged responses to the consultation. The HSE subsequently dropped plans to ban lead airgun pellets and conceded that target shooting with lead rifle ammunition should be allowed to continue at approved ranges. We await the outcome of last year's consultation - which has been delayed due to weight of responses. BASC's response to last year's HSE consultation was to argue against any further regulations on lead ammunition - given that for the main risk - lead shot for live quarry shooting - a voluntary transition was underway to mitigate that risk. Once the outcome has been published the government of the day will then decide actions, if any. Whatever happens we are many years away from a change in law because grace periods will be worked in. Meanwhile BASC and the other orgs will continue to encourage a voluntary move away from lead shot and single use plastics for live quarry shooting.
Q3. when it was clear that the voluntary transition was clearly not gaining the intended following or traction why has it been so heavily perused for 5 years?. its literally been pushed to the 11th hour and when the time frame expires the goals have not been met whats the plan? why the hell have they still been banging the drum over this and more than likely going to need to make a U-turn thats not going to cast shooting, shooters or the organizations in a good light.
A3. I think BASC and the other orgs will continue to encourage a voluntary move away from lead shot and single use plastics for live quarry shooting. As per A1. the initial target was 5 years and progress has been made but with Covid and Ukraine war and other factors more time is needed in terms of cartridges. However, its also about a change in awareness and attitudes - such as why the move away from lead shot is a positive move - and that alternatives like steel shot can be used in a much wider variety of guns that people realize.
I hope that helps - however as a BASC member feel free to PM or email me at conor.ogorman@basc.org.uk if you would like further advice in a phone call.
thanks for taking the time to type that out and clear that up Conor. It would seem that the voluntary move may have a role to play in mitigating/pacifying the potential outcomes of the HSE proposals. given the circumstances you've pointed out above i imagine the 9 organizations next move will be to play for time and extend deadlines.
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49 minutes ago, Gordon R said:
Can I suggest you take the time to read the posts.
well i took your advice and ive wasted my time.
was looking for an actual answer and the closest i got to question 1 was
"What happens from 2025 onward will be for the organizations that announced the voluntary transition away from lead shot and single use plastics for live quarry shooting with shotguns in 2020 to decide and announce." and i may be wrong but none of those organizations can in fact impose anything on the shooting community.
in fact this has added a 3rd question to my list
3. when it was clear that the voluntary transition was clearly not gaining the intended following or traction why has it been so heavily perused for 5 years?. its literally been pushed to the 11th hour and when the time frame expires the goals have not been met whats the plan? why the hell have they still been banging the drum over this and more than likely going to need to make a U-turn thats not going to cast shooting, shooters or the organizations in a good light.
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sorry if these questions have been answered but 13 pages of long winded comments is not something im gona go through word for word on a sunday afternoon. ive brushed through it all and get the general idea but ive got some questions that ive not had a rock solid answer too.
1. the voluntary basc transition away from single use plastic and lead for game. how voluntary is it?. its year 5 of 5 and some progress has been made but realistically its not looking like a complete transition will be achieved not even close so what its the consequence of that?. to my knowledge basc are an organization not a governing body, if its decided by the majority of the shooting community to ignore this transition out side of a cautionary tale what can basc actually impose? am i correct in thinking this isnt and wont be law?
(for the record im BASC member and use non toxic when practical but can very much see the reasons and sympathies with those who dont)
2. whats the score with this HSE matter? where are we at now i know that is being pushed to be a legal ban however it seems to keep deferring and stalling and to my knowledge is a EU proposal thats now been scraped in the EU. how is the wind blowing with this is it looking like a matter of time or is this starting to loose traction?. when has this been pushed back too?
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21 minutes ago, Genghis said:
Cambridgeshire are taking a year for new grants?
Cheshire are currently 3-4 months.
quick search in this forum archive alone found someone feb just gone asking for advice.
hed applied in september and as of feb hed heard nothing. one of the commenters said 18 months. i think cheshire are very much the exception to the rule atm the whole country is on a very long and frankly unacceptable turn around time but what can you do? you get funny about it theyll just revoke you.
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mate if youve just put in for your ticket youve got a year to wait. and loads of guns will take your eye between now and then. and if youre like anyone i know as soon as get your section 2 you dont but THE gun youll find youll probably buy about 5. and the one you shoot best with will naturally become the go too. in the first 5 years of having my ticket i must have bought and sold 25 shotguns. and ive held onto the ones i really enjoyed. thats the beauty of section 2 if youve got the money youve got the gun easy as that
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having this exact problem, i broke one of my keys and im using my spare. its a double bit key and local cobblers/key cutters are all asking for 30-50 quid to cut the key including timpsons , and all saihd they have to order the blanks in. keys are poor metal. like a cast pewter looking material.
timpsons do offer but 1 get 1 half price bit its still pricy
toyed with the idea of just buying a key cutter for £90 and having a crack.
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1 or 2 screws will do so little damage to the tree it will be negligible.
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any pictures mate?
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i was a member of a club for a few years, but i lost interest when the club wasnt really offering anything and was more of just the old boys getting together to reminisce and i think thats what the club was for to keep the old guard who may not be able to get out anymore in contact so fair play to them. One thing they did all agree on was its not like it used to be. they said the birds dont really arrive until it gets colder in October and its all over with by xmas.
ive been a permit holder at lindisfarne a few year now and they do seem to have been telling the truth with this one. i go on the 1st day of the season as its tradition for me and my pal but we blank more often than not outside of the window mentioned above
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3 hours ago, Wylye said:
I doubt if it will have any effect whatsoever. How many people use autos for trap? Same with Olympic skeet
used to be a division for it.
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Most home office approved clubs upon application ask the police if you have an previous and if it would or wouldn't be wise to grant you membership. then you usually have to take part in an induction/firearms safety course and satisfy the club. If all goes well then you will enter a 6 month probation period, once complete THEN the police will entertain a firearms application. applying before the probation period is over is unlikely to be successful and applying without being a member on intent alone is 99.9% sure to get refused almost immediately. most clubs have access to club firearms and you can buy and use ammo aslong as it doesn't leave the premises so if you are intrested in shooting and wish to do a bit target practice you can scratch the itch until youre granted an FAC.
to save confusion use references that arnt related to you in any form, and as far as im aware no profession will speed up the process.
Binoculars and Monoculars, How many PW members use either for Decoying, Bird Watching, General use, I cannot resist buying !!!!!, Now 5 Pairs and 1 Mono
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i use a pair of solognac 500 10x42. think i payed about £120-£150
650g, silver coated BAK-4 prizum,
on par with vortex crossfire and hawke endurance specs so not the best but still a solid set get used mostly at holy island during the season when nowts happening for the shotgun i become quite the twitcher